[weezee]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

Yip, there is a lot of really smart an experienced people out there who believe in evolution. They also provide evidence that you can look at and test for yourself.

Oh, FYI, I live in Europe and can confirm that not everyone here believes in evolution, we even have young earth creationists as well. And yes, we do believe these people are absolute nut jobs just like you.

See, some things are universal.

[Titus Templeton]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

Yip, there is a lot of really smart an experienced people out there who believe in evolution. They also provide evidence that you can look at and test for yourself.

Oh, FYI, I live in Europe and can confirm that not everyone here believes in evolution, we even have young earth creationists as well. And yes, we do believe these people are absolute nut jobs just like you.

See, some things are universal.

There are numerous evidences of and for creation. Take the Bible for instance. Take creation itself for instance.
If evolution were true, vampires, werewolves would exist. They don't. How do you account for that?

[Chantal]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

Listen, witch.

If those Scientists had an ounce of common since, they would put away their test tubes and their Bunsen burners, and they would open their Bibles, amen. They aren't going to learn the truth by pointing a telescope up at the firmament, running a Geiger counter over a bunch of rocks, or by scraping skin cells off a salamander.

They can only learn the Truth about the world by reading the Word of the One who created the world (that would be the Bible, for you slow unsaved folks reading this). That's real research into the History and Scientific Facts of the World.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

Hold on there, why don't you try to be a little more like Jesus and use some kindness and show some respect for the women that was also created by God. It is OK to answer questions but just because she was rude doesn't mean you have to be to. Be the better person and answer her with your honesty, but there is never a reason for rudeness.

[John Creeser]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

Hold on there, why don't you try to be a little more like Jesus and use some kindness and show some respect for the women that was also created by God. It is OK to answer questions but just because she was rude doesn't mean you have to be to. Be the better person and answer her with your honesty, but there is never a reason for rudeness.

I'm sorry, who is being rude? You should know your place, girl. This Godly forum is no place for uppity feminazis.

1st Corinthians 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
1st Corinthians 14:35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

Hold on there, why don't you try to be a little more like Jesus....

That's a fine thing to say to a man of the cloth. How do you know what Jesus was like if you can't even bother to learn about Him? Did you really think you could simply post His Glorious Face onto the image of some hippy-dippy, free-spirit, burning man kind of caricature and then watch it perform how you direct it on the stage of your imagination? For your information, Pastor Billy-Reuben has been washed clean by the Blood of the Lamb. He has been born anew, a creature born from Perfect Spirit, not imperfect flesh (John 3:6). He is holy, like Jesus is holy (1 Peter 1:16). If you have a problem with what he's saying, it might help to know it's not his words you read, but the LORD's themselves.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

Hold on there, why don't you try to be a little more like Jesus and use some kindness and show some respect for the women that was also created by God. It is OK to answer questions but just because she was rude doesn't mean you have to be to. Be the better person and answer her with your honesty, but there is never a reason for rudeness.

Lady, you aren't fit to lick the patent leather shoes that Pastor Billy-Reuben wears every Sunday. I'll bet your husband beats you every single day.

[AtheistAsshat]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

And to add insult to injury, physicists can't seem to see the truth that evolution violates the Second Law of Thermodynamics --a fact that every good creationist knows, even without a degree in physics!

You seem to "know so much about physics without a degree", so would you kindly tell me the other ones? Even how many there are? You can't, at least not without a google search.

Aaand no, the fact that things, over time, attempt to reach uniformity, leading to that order can never arise from chaos, has nothing to do with disproving evolution. This only applies to closed systems; the earth is not one. It's bombarded with solar radiation and asteroids daily!

I believe that John Feuerstein is your new prophet these days, so I'll just go ahead and debunk his "tornado through garage full of crap cars forming into shining lambo" example right now. The process of crap cars forming into a shining red Lamborghini is true, but the cause is wrong; it's not a tornado, it's a mechanic. A mechanic takes the crap cars, applies some other stuff from around his garage, and finally gets a Lamborghini. Oh and as you people have so much trouble understanding this, this is all metaphorical. Repeat, metaphorical.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

Oh and as you people have so much trouble understanding this, this is all metaphorical. Repeat, metaphorical.

We know what a metaphor is. It would be helpful for us to learn, on the other hand, whether you regard the universe-as-a-whole (or however your fancy decribes it) to be a closed or an open system?

[Steph Leia]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

I believe that John Feuerstein is your new prophet these days, so I'll just go ahead and debunk his "tornado through garage full of crap cars forming into shining lambo" example right now. The process of crap cars forming into a shining red Lamborghini is true, but the cause is wrong; it's not a tornado, it's a mechanic. A mechanic takes the crap cars, applies some other stuff from around his garage, and finally gets a Lamborghini. Oh and as you people have so much trouble understanding this, this is all metaphorical. Repeat, metaphorical.

I think you're finally understanding now! The whole point of that video was that you would need a mechanic. And do you know who the mechanic is? God!
I'm glad that you're finally understanding His ways!
Praise!

[Basilissa]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

Hold on there, why don't you try to be a little more like Jesus and use some kindness and show some respect for the women that was also created by God. It is OK to answer questions but just because she was rude doesn't mean you have to be to. Be the better person and answer her with your honesty, but there is never a reason for rudeness.

Sweetie, how do you know if Jesus had respect for women?

You see, our only evidence that Jesus existed is the Holy Bible. And this is what Holy Bible says about Jesus treatment of women:

Matthew 15:22-28
22 And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou Son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.
23 But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us.
24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
25 Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.
26 But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.
27 And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table.
28 Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.

As we can see from this example, Jesus paid attention to women only if they were extremely annoying, and He called them dogs.

If you call that having respect for women, then your boyfriend must be really... something.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

II Peter 1
16 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.
17 For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
18 And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount.
19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
KJV .. look up

What did those HOLY men communicate to us? Their words are the words of Jesus too. For a short time The Holy Ghost lived and moved and had His being in the Body of Jesus. Now that Jesus has ascended into Heaven as testified by many witnesses, we too may know that inspiration. It is the same inspiration but operating in a different stratum of history. And the message is the same.

Without faith one is nothing, less than nothing since "nothing" can't be tortured for eternity in lakes of fire. Jesus continues:

PROVERBS 5
3 For the lips of a strange woman drop as an honeycomb, and her mouth is smoother than oil:
4 But her end is bitter as wormwood, sharp as a twoedged sword.
5 Her feet go down to death; her steps take hold on hell.
6 Lest thou shouldest ponder the path of life, her ways are moveable, that thou canst not know them.
7 Hear me now therefore, O ye children, and depart not from the words of my mouth.
8 Remove thy way far from her, and come not nigh the door of her house:
9 Lest thou give thine honour unto others, and thy years unto the cruel:
10 Lest strangers be filled with thy wealth; and thy labours be in the house of a stranger;
11 And thou mourn at the last, when thy flesh and thy body are consumed,
KJV .. look up

Such a one presented herself before Christ. Did he get overcome by the fumes and lapse into debauchery? No. He remembered His advice and implemented it:

PROVERBS 7
7b I discerned among the youths, a young man void of understanding,
8 Passing through the street near her corner; and he went the way to her house,
9 In the twilight, in the evening, in the black and dark night:
10 And, behold, there met him a woman with the attire of an harlot, and subtil of heart.
11 (She is loud and stubborn; her feet abide not in her house:
12 Now is she without, now in the streets, and lieth in wait at every corner.)
13 So she caught him, and kissed him, and with an impudent face said unto him,
14 I have peace offerings with me; this day have I payed my vows.
15 Therefore came I forth to meet thee, diligently to seek thy face, and I have found thee.
16 I have decked my bed with coverings of tapestry, with carved works, with fine linen of Egypt.
17 I have perfumed my bed with myrrh, aloes, and cinnamon.
18 Come, let us take our fill of love until the morning: let us solace ourselves with loves.
19 For the goodman is not at home, he is gone a long journey:
20 He hath taken a bag of money with him, and will come home at the day appointed.
21 With her much fair speech she caused him to yield, with the flattering of her lips she forced him.
22 He goeth after her straightway, as an ox goeth to the slaughter, or as a fool to the correction of the stocks;
23 Till a dart strike through his liver; as a bird hasteth to the snare, and knoweth not that it is for his life.
KJV .. look up . context

Now in a place like Australia where harlots were ordered by the boatload in some sort of effort to stave off sodomy the liklihood of meeting gutter-free companions is remote for either sex. Canaanite sensibilities would be similarly envenomed. The Israelite perspective was a default position of full trollop but Jesus was no ordinary Israelite. He looked for evidence of FAITH.

And He found it.

MATTHEW 15
26 But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.
27 And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table..

Jesus was gratified. Her recognition of His earlier accuracy where heathen lusts flower unrestrained and of the opportunity for Salvation once admitted into the reducing crucible of His Perfect Love:

28 Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.
KJV .. look up . context . what happened next?

That faith is not only our hope. It is our promise

[AtheistAsshat]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

I think you're finally understanding now! The whole point of that video was that you would need a mechanic. And do you know who the mechanic is? God!
I'm glad that you're finally understanding His ways!
Praise!

Hmm... lolnope. That mechanic is the process of evolution, silly.

And no, evolution isn't a sentient and unproven fallacy like your god, it's simply a process; like burning in hell, which A) I don't believe in and something you people here really like pushing into my brain for some reason.

[AtheistAsshat]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

We know what a metaphor is. It would be helpful for us to learn, on the other hand, whether you regard the universe-as-a-whole (or however your fancy decribes it) to be a closed or an open system?

It would be easy to reply to if we knew if the universe was infinite if finite; we don't know yet. Even the Bible doesn't tell us the answer to that. That's why we spend a few hundred million dollars (which isn't even a lot) a year trying to discover the answer. Wait 1-2 decades and we'll know the answer; because that's what we call progress. Something religion hasn't heard about for two thousand years.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

It would be easy to reply to if we knew if the universe was infinite if finite; we don't know yet. Even the Bible doesn't tell us the answer to that. That's why we spend a few hundred million dollars (which isn't even a lot) a year trying to discover the answer. Wait 1-2 decades and we'll know the answer; because that's what we call progress. Something religion hasn't heard about for two thousand years.

Yeah, the government is also spending a lot of money on duck penis research.



I equate space exploration with duck penis research...they both have precisely the same impact on your Eternal Salvation: NONE.

YiC,

Zech

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

It would be easy to reply to if we knew if the universe was infinite if finite; we don't know yet.

I'll take that as a closed system then.

Aaand no, the fact that things, over time, attempt to reach uniformity, leading to that order can never arise from chaos, has nothing to do with disproving evolution. This only applies to closed systems; the earth is not one. It's bombarded with solar radiation and asteroids daily!

Whoooooooooooops .. .. . . unfortunately for your position (which you do not understand) the ultimate—or any other—stable condition is a chaotic condition. Chaos cannot be degraded. That is why a) it is stable b) it is immune to external interference (otherwise it would not be chaotic).

For "the universe" to degenerate into chaos ergo the stable condition, it must be a closed system.