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Atheists are No Smarter Than Dead Babies -
07-05-2011, 08:06 PM
Atheists, being too stupid to understand the concept of God, do not have the ability to believe in Him.
This directly parallels the cases of infants and inanimate objects, who also lack the intelligence necessary to believe in God.
In the case of the adult, human atheist, his mind is totally confounded by all sorts of non-sequiturs about standards of evidence, historicity, facticity, and the scientific method. They fail to understand that religion and reason are non-overlapping magisteria. Due to the excessive activity taking place in the atheist's mind, he becomes hateful and resentful of God and his fellow man which as we know leads to anal fixation and eventually the choice to roast in Hell for all eternity, for the sake of the sadistic sodomy that goes along with it.
In the cases of infants and inanimate objects, there is simply not enough mental capacity to begin with. So they cannot contain a belief in God either.
Thus, inanimate objects such as lamp posts and toilets are atheists! And so are stupid little ignorant babies! Thus atheists as a group are no smarter than dead babies!
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Re: Atheists are No Smarter Than Dead Babies -
07-05-2011, 09:01 PM
Mr. Jenkins, if you allow me to ask a question? I agrre with you on your point about atheists. They are stupid and don't deserve any place better than eternal Hell. But do you really think that little babies are stupid and ignorant. I mean, the fact that a small, newborn, child cannot read the KJV nor understand it doesn't make it ignorant. Little babies aren't atheists. They just never heard of our good Lord.
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Re: Atheists are No Smarter Than Dead Babies -
07-05-2011, 09:04 PM
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Mr. Jenkins, if you allow me to ask a question? I agrre with you on your point about atheists. They are stupid and don't deserve any place better than eternal Hell. But do you really think that little babies are stupid and ignorant. I mean, the fact that a small, newborn, child cannot read the KJV nor understand it doesn't make it ignorant. Little babies aren't atheists. They just never heard of our good Lord.
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Revelation 21:8 (King James Version) 8But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Little babies do not believe. Therefore they are damned.
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Re: Atheists are No Smarter Than Dead Babies -
07-05-2011, 09:10 PM
If you take that verse literally, as True Christians would, then yes. You're right. Poor little things. I'll teach my children to read the KJV bible to their unborn children while they are still in the womb. Maybe that'll keep them from doom.
Thanks for the swift answer,
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Re: Atheists are No Smarter Than Dead Babies -
07-05-2011, 10:01 PM
No child has a chance in Heaven until he can understand the ramifications of being a True Christian™. Reading the Bible to him is a good thing but that alone will never ensure True Salvation©. Many a baby has its' soul sold to the Devil by its' parents often during a night of teenage fornication. Many years later when the kids become adults and have a Christian marriage when they are 20, they have forgotten the soiled soul.
If you have a Pastor carefully examine your child, he can tell if this is the case and can recommend soul cleaning in the blood of Jesus or in extreme cases. stoning.
I have to admit at the feet of God, that my first child was owned by the devil. God told me I could end the suffering by leaving the child at a cross at the family cemetery. Weeks later, when I came by to pray for Salvation®, I found the child gone except for a few bones. I was fortunate to not of had to stone the child.
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Re: Atheists are No Smarter Than Dead Babies -
07-06-2011, 01:41 PM
If you think about it, babies really deserve to be punished with fire and sodomy for all eternity without pause, because they are not capable of understanding Christ's sacrifice. I hope this point was clear from the original post: I do not hate babies; God does. I merely rejoice in God's justice and therefore in the eternal suffering of dead, atheistic babies.
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Re: Atheists are No Smarter Than Dead Babies -
07-09-2011, 01:25 AM
Intelligent people are 'less likely to believe in God'..its true!!!...
People with higher IQs are less likely to believe in God, according to many studies!!!.
A separate poll in the 90s found only seven per cent of members of the American National Academy of Sciences believed in God.
Professor Lynn said most primary school children believed in God, but as they entered adolescence - and their intelligence increased - many started to have doubts.
He told Times Higher Education magazine: "Why should fewer academics believe in God than the general population? I believe it is simply a matter of the IQ. Academics have higher IQs than the general population. Several Gallup poll studies of the general population have shown that those with higher IQs tend not to believe in God."
He said religious belief had declined across 137 developed nations in the 20th century at the same time as people became more intelligent.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ve-in-God.html
http://www.atheistapologist.com/2010...religious.html
According to an opinion piece by Gregory Paul and Phil Zuckerman in the Washington Post last week, atheists may not only be smarter but more ethical than religious people .
Here's a part of it: " A growing body of social science research reveals
that atheists, and non-religious people in general, are far from the unsavory beings many assume them to be.
On basic questions of morality,human decency-issues such as governmental use of torture, the death penalty, punitive hitting of children, racism,sexism, homophobia, anti-semitism, environmental degradation and human rights ,the irreligious tend to be more ethical than religious peers, particularly compared with those who describe themselves as very religious.
Consider that on the societal level, murder rates are far lower in secularized nations such as Japan and Sweden than they are in the
much more religious United States,which also has a much greater
proportion of its population in prison.
Even within this country,those states with the highest level
of church attendance ,such as Louisiana, and Mississippi have
significantly higher murder rates than far less religious states such as Vermont and Oregon.
As individuals ,atheists tend to score high on measures of
intelligence,especially verbal ability and scientific literacy.
They tend to raise their children to solve problems rationally,
to make up their own minds when it comes to existential questions and to obey the golden rule.They are more likely to
practice safe sex than the strongly religious are ,and are less likely
to be nationalistic and ethnocentric .
They value freedom of thought."
I'm not sure if I agree entirely with this,but it does make a considerable amount of sense. This doesn't mean that religious people are necessarily stupid and ignorant.
The article shows how common intolerance of atheists in America is, and how many Americans would not vote for a politician who was an open atheist,particularly a Presidential candidate.
It's a fact however-there are SOME U.S. politicians,in Washington,too, who are actually atheists or agnostics, but put on an outward show of being religious to avoid being vilified and rejected. They shouldn't have to do this.
I'm not an atheist myself, (no holidays), but I don't think that there's anything wrong with being one. They're certainly preferable to highly intolerant and dogmatic religious people!
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=73954
SO it would seem its you religious types that are the thicko's!......and lets face it looking at your pathetic posts and threads on crazy deluded ideas and pretend think you know about science statements! am inclined to believe the studies!...
So in reality its the Atheists that are FAR superior in intellect than the dumb Christians and their pathetic brainwashed dumb ideas!
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Re: Atheists are No Smarter Than Dead Babies -
07-09-2011, 06:20 AM
You're just messing with us, right, Dave?
Nobody's that thick as to keep posting secular quotes as if they're not just stuff made up by men to get people who are gullible to believe there is no God.
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Re: Atheists are No Smarter Than Dead Babies -
07-09-2011, 07:13 PM
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Intelligent people are 'less likely to believe in God'..its true!!!...
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Why did you write that in blank verse?
The point here is your sources.
(i)The Daily Telegraph is the organ of the British Socialist Party and should not be trusted.
(ii) The poll was done by people who defined themselves as intelligent atheists.
As such it is all garbage.
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Re: Atheists are No Smarter Than Dead Babies -
11-11-2011, 06:40 PM
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If you think about it, babies really deserve to be punished with fire and sodomy for all eternity without pause, because they are not capable of understanding Christ's sacrifice. I hope this point was clear from the original post: I do not hate babies; God does. I merely rejoice in God's justice and therefore in the eternal suffering of dead, atheistic babies.
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All babies then? So we can speak on God's behalf when we ourselves can't truly make a discerning statement either way? Does God display mercy, unequivocally so! God is just if babies are saved, and God is just if babies go to hell. Regardless, Jenkins you don't know. In 2 Samuel 12 we can see clearly that David believes he will one day go to his son:
"While the child was still alive, I fasted and wept, for I said, ‘Who knows whether the LORD will be gracious to me, that the child may live?’ But now he is dead. Why should I fast? Can I bring him back again? I shall go to him, but he will not return to me.”
We cannot say that there is certainty on either side. Billy Bob you are far better making statements that are clearly verifiable through scripture.
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Re: Atheists are No Smarter Than Dead Babies -
11-11-2011, 07:11 PM
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All babies then? So we can speak on God's behalf when we ourselves can't truly make a discerning statement either way? Does God display mercy, unequivocally so! God is just if babies are saved, and God is just if babies go to hell. Regardless, Jenkins you don't know. In 2 Samuel 12 we can see clearly that David believes he will one day go to his son:
"While the child was still alive, I fasted and wept, for I said, ‘Who knows whether the LORD will be gracious to me, that the child may live?’ But now he is dead. Why should I fast? Can I bring him back again? I shall go to him, but he will not return to me.”
We cannot say that there is certainty on either side. Billy Bob you are far better making statements that are clearly verifiable through scripture.
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I think we both agree that Jesus temporary death on the Cross for our sins is the greatest gift of love ever? Correct? After all, Jesus is God Himself, utterly sinless, so to take our punishment for our sins is truly selfless. So logically, to reject the greatest gift of love ever is the greatest sin ever. Therefor is we assume babies can understand Jesus' sacrifice their lack of thanks for it is utter depravity and sin.
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11-11-2011, 07:22 PM
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Friend,
I think we both agree that Jesus temporary death on the Cross for our sins is the greatest gift of love ever? Correct? After all, Jesus is God Himself, utterly sinless, so to take our punishment for our sins is truly selfless. So logically, to reject the greatest gift of love ever is the greatest sin ever. Therefor is we assume babies can understand Jesus' sacrifice their lack of thanks for it is utter depravity and sin.
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I believe we agree on those irrevocable truths. I also believe that is one of two lines of logic to follow from the point of the question. To be quite honest, I would fall along the same sentiments. However, when counseling and nailing it down to what we actually believe it is safer and sits far better with scripture to say "we just don't know." Because we truly don't know, you have read 2 Sam 12 and been presented with the question. Can we say that God doesn't grant his mercies on those who cannot comprehend his word due to the way he has created them. God very well may send all babies, aborted fetuses, and mentally handicapped people to hell, but he may not. Either way he is still a good God. It's not something we can certainly say because each side has evidence from scripture, therefore it's best to admit that only God knows.
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Re: Atheists are No Smarter Than Dead Babies -
11-11-2011, 07:41 PM
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All babies then? So we can speak on God's behalf when we ourselves can't truly make a discerning statement either way? Does God display mercy, unequivocally so! God is just if babies are saved, and God is just if babies go to hell. Regardless, Jenkins you don't know. In 2 Samuel 12 we can see clearly that David believes he will one day go to his son:
"While the child was still alive, I fasted and wept, for I said, ‘Who knows whether the LORD will be gracious to me, that the child may live?’ But now he is dead. Why should I fast? Can I bring him back again? I shall go to him, but he will not return to me.”
We cannot say that there is certainty on either side. Billy Bob you are far better making statements that are clearly verifiable through scripture.
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I have actually, cover to cover twice and spend some time in the word daily. That's not an argument by the way, if you desire to be received as convincing you're far better quoting scripture or employing deductive reasoning.
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11-11-2011, 07:58 PM
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I have actually, cover to cover twice and spend some time in the word daily. That's not an argument by the way, if you desire to be received as convincing you're far better quoting scripture or employing deductive reasoning.
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What are you even on about? You're the unsaved trash here so get busy actually praising Jesus or get out!
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That's not an argument either.
“Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye." Matthew 5
You don't know if I'm saved! How dare you spew such vile lies. Are you not my brother? Act like one! I have confessed with my mouth Jesus is Lord and believed in my heart God raised him from the dead, I am saved. I never claimed you weren't saved, I'd prefer you keep the ad hominems out of this and keep the issue to looking at whether "Atheists are Smarter than Dead Babies."
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11-11-2011, 08:15 PM
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I believe we agree on those irrevocable truths. I also believe that is one of two lines of logic to follow from the point of the question. To be quite honest, I would fall along the same sentiments. However, when counseling and nailing it down to what we actually believe it is safer and sits far better with scripture to say "we just don't know." Because we truly don't know, you have read 2 Sam 12 and been presented with the question. Can we say that God doesn't grant his mercies on those who cannot comprehend his word due to the way he has created them. God very well may send all babies, aborted fetuses, and mentally handicapped people to hell, but he may not. Either way he is still a good God. It's not something we can certainly say because each side has evidence from scripture, therefore it's best to admit that only God knows.
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Of course friend God is good. No were to we suggest or even imply that.
It's mankind that is awful.
As The Bible teaches us, ALL of us are BORN wicked, utterly depraved sinners that DESERVE eternal torment for just existing. How can God not punish us if God is good? We deserve it and He knows since He created us.
However God's infant love meant He sent His only son to take our punishment for us! But that only counts if we accept His Gift! GLORY! Look at me, I was born a sinner like the rest of the worthless scum called humanity, yet Jesus reached out His hand to me, I took it, and He saved me from Hell! PRAISE!
So the logical, justice and good answer is babies deserve to be damned to Hell until they accept Jesus as their savior.
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11-11-2011, 08:17 PM
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Because we truly don't know, you have read 2 Sam 12 and been presented with the question. Can we say that God doesn't grant his mercies on those who cannot comprehend his word due to the way he has created them.
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Ah, but did David ever go to be with his child in light of Acts 2?
29Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.
30Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
31He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
32This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.
33Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.
34For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
35Until I make thy foes thy footstool.
Also, how can a child go to heaven without repenting and being Baptized as our very nature is toward sin? I will be glad to quote to you the pertinent scriptures at your request.
Are you somehow trying to claim that the Bible is contradicting itself?
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Of course friend God is good. No were to we suggest or even imply that.
It's mankind that is awful.
As The Bible teaches us, ALL of us are BORN wicked, utterly depraved sinners that DESERVE eternal torment for just existing. How can God not punish us if God is good? We deserve it and He knows since He created us.
However God's infant love meant He sent His only son to take our punishment for us! But that only counts if we accept His Gift! GLORY! Look at me, I was born a sinner like the rest of the worthless scum called humanity, yet Jesus reached out His hand to me, I took it, and He saved me from Hell! PRAISE!
So the logical, justice and good answer is babies deserve to be damned to Hell until they accept Jesus as their savior.
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Damned. Yes Babies should be, but so should we. Only by the mercy of God are we allowed to enter heaven, but does God extend that to humans who aren't cognitive to make a choice? I would rather not partake in speaking for God where he doesn't speak for himself.
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11-11-2011, 08:24 PM
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Damned. Yes Babies should be, but so should we. Only by the mercy of God are we allowed to enter heaven, but does God extend that to humans who aren't cognitive to make a choice? I would rather not partake in speaking for God where he doesn't speak for himself.
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Friend,
This seems very clear, by our very nature we deserve Hell. The choice we will always make on our own is the wrong one.
Do for example tribesmen in South America who have never seen a Christian our heard Christ's message of love escape Hell just because they are ignorant? Of course not.
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