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  • Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

    Originally posted by Bobby-Joe View Post
    Friend,

    You argue we should prove The Bible with the world we observe, however, how can we rule out Satan faking the results? Take grasshoppers were Satan has clearly added extra legs to them.
    This has probably been asked before, but why is Satan able to mess with the Creation made by the omnipotent God?
    1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
    23:Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

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    • Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

      Originally posted by HandJob View Post
      Don't think you got the point. The point was that this "the Bible proves the Bible is true" is flawed.

      It should state a connection to something distinct from your deduction, in this case, the physical world.
      I've been reading along with you, and the big thing I'm seeing is that you somehow want us to "logically" define God to you. Well God can't be defined "logically", he is beyond what our little brains can comprehend. That's why it's called FAITH.

      Psalm 101:6 Mine eyes shall be upon the faithful of the land, that they may dwell with me: he that walketh in a perfect way, he shall serve me.

      Proverbs 27:6 Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.

      Matthew 8:26 And he saith unto them, Why are ye fearful, O ye of little faith? Then he arose, and rebuked the winds and the sea; and there was a great calm.

      Matthew 9:29 Then touched he their eyes, saying, According to your faith be it unto you.

      Matthew 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

      Romans 1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
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      • Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

        Originally posted by BelieverInGod View Post
        I've been reading along with you, and the big thing I'm seeing is that you somehow want us to "logically" define God to you. Well God can't be defined "logically", he is beyond what our little brains can comprehend. That's why it's called FAITH.
        No, I want you to explain logically why you believe in God and the Bible. Faith would not be considered a logical explanation. I stated a possible logical explanation above.

        Anyways, could someone inform me about the whole Satan deal? Why is Satan able to mess with the Creation made by the omnipotent God?
        1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
        23:Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

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        • Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

          Originally posted by HandJob View Post
          No, I want you to explain logically why you believe in God and the Bible. Faith would not be considered a logical explanation. I stated a possible logical explanation above.
          Listen, pally; You are about one more smart-assed comment away from being asked to leave this Godly forum. Unsaved scum such as yourself are unwelcome here anyway, but to waltz in and demand that we abandon our Faith is going too far.

          I'm watching you, demon.
          Who Will Jesus Damn?

          Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

          Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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          • Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

            Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
            Listen, pally; You are about one more smart-assed comment away from being asked to leave this Godly forum. Unsaved scum such as yourself are unwelcome here anyway, but to waltz in and demand that we abandon our Faith is going too far.

            I'm watching you, demon.
            I definitely did not do that. You all don't like logic anyway, so why would it matter that faith isn't considered a logical explanation(to atheists)?

            Sorry, I am not demanding anyone to abandon their faith.
            1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
            23:Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

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            • Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

              Originally posted by HandJob View Post
              No, I want you to explain logically why you believe in God and the Bible. Faith would not be considered a logical explanation. I stated a possible logical explanation above.
              Faith is a perfectly logical explanation. You have faith in secular science, or do you recreate every scientific study ever done?

              Originally posted by HandJob View Post
              Anyways, could someone inform me about the whole Satan deal? Why is Satan able to mess with the Creation made by the omnipotent God?
              Oh, come on now, everyone knows this one. Because of Adam and Eve, they messed up and now we all have to pay the price.


              Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

              Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
              Drama queen

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              • Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

                Originally posted by BelieverInGod View Post
                Faith is a perfectly logical explanation. You have faith in secular science, or do you recreate every scientific study ever done?
                Well, technically, it is faith. I have been able to logically understand most scientific concepts I know of, so I assume that the findings of science are almost always logical. Now, is assuming that really that logical? The answer is no. So no, faith isn't a logical explanation.

                Oh, come on now, everyone knows this one. Because of Adam and Eve, they messed up and now we all have to pay the price.
                Yes, I know that, but why did God give them the ability to mess up? Or allowed the existence of Satan to tempt them? "Testing them" really isn't a good explanation, considering he had to deal with the atrocities of man for the next 6000 years.
                1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
                23:Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

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                • Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

                  Originally posted by HandJob View Post
                  Yes, I know that, but why did God give them the ability to mess up? Or allowed the existence of Satan to tempt them? "Testing them" really isn't a good explanation, considering he had to deal with the atrocities of man for the next 6000 years.
                  Who the hell do you think you are, demanding "why" of God Almighty? Don't you know that He works in mysterious ways?

                  Isaiah 55:8-9: For my thoughts [are] not your thoughts, neither [are] your ways my ways, saith the LORD. For [as] the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
                  Who Will Jesus Damn?

                  Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                  Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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                  • Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

                    Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
                    Who the hell do you think you are, demanding "why" of God Almighty? Don't you know that He works in mysterious ways?
                    My apologies, as an atheist, I am unrestrained in questioning the Bible so I sometimes forget that you guys are.
                    1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
                    23:Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

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                    • Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

                      Originally posted by HandJob View Post
                      My apologies, as an atheist, I am unrestrained in questioning the Bible so I sometimes forget that you guys are.
                      We're not "restrained." We just know our place.

                      Obviously, you don't.
                      Who Will Jesus Damn?

                      Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                      Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

                      Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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                      • Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

                        Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
                        We're not "restrained." We just know our place.

                        Obviously, you don't.
                        Eh.. restrained has a negative connotation.
                        Let's just say you can't.
                        I 'don't know my place', so I can and will, even though, in your view, I shouldn't.

                        Though I will refrain from asking you all such questions that might force you to comprehend God's intentions.
                        1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
                        23:Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

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                        • Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

                          Originally posted by HandJob View Post
                          Absolutely everywhere in the physical world. As God has created it, it should correlate with the Bible. And I'd expect True Christians to state this and give realistic examples.
                          Why should we give you examples.

                          You are the one attempting to debunk our faith. You give us examples where the Bible (KJV 1611) does not correlate to your idea of the physical world.

                          Please note that any and all references you make must be in relation to the KJV 1611 Holy Bible. This is due to the fact that this is the only text we use.
                          Isaiah 66:15

                          For behold, the Lord wil come with fire, and with his charets like a whirlewinde, to render his anger with furie, and his rebuke with flames of fire.

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                          • Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

                            Originally posted by HandJob View Post
                            Though I will refrain from asking you all such questions that might force you to comprehend God's intentions.
                            I'll believe it when I see it. Atheists have no morals so I'm sure it won't be long before it's logic this and why that...
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                            • Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

                              Originally posted by HandJob View Post
                              That's one crazy video. Wow.

                              Anyways, I don't think I was very clear on the whole peacock deal.

                              Here's how it works out.
                              There are a variety of peacocks. Some peacocks have amazing tails, others not so much. Predators spot the big colorful tails and eat the peacocks with those tails. They also eat the ones with less attractive tails, though not as frequently. The less attractive peacocks would be able to pass on their genes more frequently, when considering only this factor.

                              On the other hand, peacocks with huge tails are a sign of good genes/health to peahens. Peahens choose these peacocks to mate with more frequently than with the less colorful peacocks. The colorful peacocks are able to pass on their genes more frequently in this case.

                              So as you can see, these two factors, as well as many others, determines which peacocks survive and pass on their genes and which do not. Now we have to ask: which factors are more dominant? These factors are the ones that will determine which evolutionary path the animal takes. In the case of peacock, the factors favor colorful tails more than plainer ones, therefore, peacocks retain their colorful tails.
                              Isn't it more likely that God created peacocks tails to demonstrate his existence? It's completely useless apart from being pretty to humans.

                              Thank you God for making the world beautiful and supplying it with animals for our entertainment. Praise the Lord.
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                              • Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

                                Originally posted by HandJob View Post
                                This has probably been asked before, but why is Satan able to mess with the Creation made by the omnipotent God?
                                Because God wants free will and that can't happen if there mountains of blatant evidence for God's existence.

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