[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Curiosity Mars "landing" BIGGEST NASA HOAX EVER!!!

How do all of those fit within the firmament?

I think you can see them in that Midrashic diagram. The path of the sun is shown as a dotted line.

However there are other suggestions as to the sun's location at night and I would urge caution:

Deuteronomy 4
1-2 1 Now therefore hearken, O Israel, unto the statutes and unto the judgments, which I teach you, for to do them, that ye may live, and go in and possess the land which the LORD God of your fathers giveth you. Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you. KJV

[PhDAstrophysic]

Re: Curiosity Mars "landing" BIGGEST NASA HOAX EVER!!!

They went to Mars, and the moon, together with other parts of the solar system. Deal with the truth.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Curiosity Mars "landing" BIGGEST NASA HOAX EVER!!!

They went to Mars, and the moon, together with other parts of the solar system. Deal with the truth.

Who are "they?"

And why can't you accpet the Truth(r) of God's Holy Word!?

[Bobby-Joe]

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They went to Mars, and the moon, together with other parts of the solar system. Deal with the truth.

You know who else wanted to go to the moon? ADOLPH HITLER

Heliocentrism leads right to mass murder!

[PhDAstrophysic]

Re: Curiosity Mars "landing" BIGGEST NASA HOAX EVER!!!

Who are "they?"

NASA, together with other space agencies.

And why can't you accpet the Truth® of God's Holy Word!?

Because I care personalty about the truth as a scientist. There is no positive evidence of any kind of intelligent or divine design. You might think the origin of the whole universe requires some sort of intelligence once again is a deeply mysterious problem, but, certainly, that would not be helped by postulating a supernatural intelligence because to postulate that just races bigger questions than it answers. I don't think that religion has anything useful to teach us. One of the main reasons why people are religious is because they are persuaded by the apparent design of living things, and that's completely destroyed by Darwin. It's hard to see how you could fail to be persuaded of it, the evidence is just absolutely pact. Someone believing in God is fine, but religion isn't harmless. It's when your God starts telling you you should kill gays, that's when it's harmful towards others.

[A Follower]

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First you talk a lot about evidence and truth, but you provide no evidence, logic or reason, so I can only conclude that everything you say is a lie, while everything a True Christian(tm) says is 100% backed by God and the Bible, therefor true.

Someone believing in God is fine, but religion isn't harmless. It's when your God starts telling you you should kill gays, that's when it's harmful towards others.

Absolutely not. It is the atheist belief that harms others. Do you really think that two fags can have sex with anal tearing? The simple existence of homosexuality causes harm to people. But much worse is the fact that gays endanger everyone else, it is a proven fact that gays brought the aids into the world and infected lots and lots of people (even women, proving faggotry is a choice). God tells us in the Bible that He had to wipe out several cities, like Sodom and Gomorrah because queers had taken over. When a homosexual lives in a city he is an imminent threat to every other person there, because God may decide at any moment that the city needs to be wiped out too. We Christians have a right to life and liberty, given to us by the Constitution. The only way our lives can be guaranteed is by preventing homosexuals from living in the same cities we do, so it is the biblical and constitutional duty of the government to make that happen.

[James Hutchins]

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NASA, together with other space agencies.

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Here is a typical NASA picture. Something tels me it is just an artist representation. Like all the rest. Some are just bettter than others.

[Bobby-Joe]

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I just want it noted that after a FULL month NO Heliocentrists have even attempted to deny Heliocentrism is just a theory to justify mass murder and genocide!

FOR SHAME!

[IdiocyofMYUniverse]

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deny Heliocentrism is just a theory...

Theory does not mean 'guess'. It means a model that explains the evidence and has been confirmed through observations. Heliocentrism makes more sense physically than any other model. But all motion is relative. There is nothing "just" about a theory. That suggests you think a theory is an unproven assumption or idea, which is not true. You're thinking of a hypothesis. When a hypothesis has been rigorously proved to be true it becomes a theory. The word theory in scientific parlance is not the same thing as its meaning in common speech.

[Cranky Old Man]

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Theory does not mean 'guess'. It means a model that explains the evidence and has been confirmed through observations.

No it does not. Please invest some of your drug money into a dictionary. Theory means something THAT HAS NOT BEEN PROVEN! I hope the bigger letters help reach your brain so you will have learned something today.

[Redeemed Papist]

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Why oh why oh why do scientificists constantly try to convince us that their wild guesses about the nature of the earth and firmament are in any way likely to be true?

We have the word of God as revealed to ancient prophets. By God!

2 Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

[IdiocyofMYUniverse]

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No it does not. Please invest some of your drug money into a dictionary. Theory means something THAT HAS NOT BEEN PROVEN! I hope the bigger letters help reach your brain so you will have learned something today.

Why oh why oh why do scientificists constantly try to convince us that their wild guesses...

Incorrect.

To become a theory it has to be demonstrably correct and undergo and survive a lot of independently verifiable riggorous tests.

You're thinking of a hypothesis.

In science something is a hypothesis until "proven" except in science there's no such thing as proof, the only true proof is in mathematical statements. A theory is accepted as correct when it has undergone all possible attempts at falsification that can be concieved of and widthstood the rigorous testing. If it survives all the peer review and testing ususually over many decades or even centuries it gets to become a theory.

In mathematics someone suggests an idea it is called a postulate, it remains a postulate until it can be mathematically proved in which case it becomes a theorem.

It's easy to get confused because in every day speech people refer to an unverified, or worse unverifiable, idea as a theory because it sounds less pretentious than saying hypothesis.

Actually if you want to get a little deeper, a scientific theory is a more wordy or verbose application of a scientific law. A law is generally one sentence or a mathematical formula that has been rigorously shown to be correct over a very long period of time and a theory is much lengthier and built around the application of one or more laws.

firmament are in any way likely to be true?

Nearly most Christians don't believe in the firmament because they have accepted what science has discovered. Nearly most Christians don't believe the Earth is flat because they have accepted what science has discovered. Nearly most Christians believe in other planets because they have accepted what science has discovered. Nearly most Christians believe in the large distance in the universe because they have accepted what science has discovered. Some Christians believe in evolution because they have accepted what science has discovered. Some Christians believe the Earth is billions of years old because they have accepted what science has discovered. All these things you can test for yourself if you had the time, knowledge and energy to do so. Why do you still believe in ridiculous ideas that have been completely proven? Are you scared of the truth? You too scared to understand your Old Testament was wrong? That Slavery was wrong? Wake up to reality with you fellow Christians and see the world around you.

[Asshat Turdhead]

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In modern science, the term "theory" refers to scientific explanation, a well-confirmed type of explanation of nature, made in a way consistent with scientific method, and fulfilling the criteria required by modern science. Such theories are described in such a way that any scientist in the field is in a position to understand and either provide empirical support ("verify") or empirically contradict ("falsify") it.

[Brother Harold Porter]

Re: Curiosity Mars "landing" BIGGEST NASA HOAX EVER!!!

In modern science, the term "theory" refers to scientific explanation, a well-confirmed type of explanation of nature, made in a way consistent with scientific method, and fulfilling the criteria required by modern science. Such theories are described in such a way that any scientist in the field is in a position to understand and either provide empirical support ("verify") or empirically contradict ("falsify") it.

Friend, "modern science" hates God. The "scientists" refuse to give Him any credit whatsoever for His creation. Is this fair?

He wrote that He created all that we see, yet the secular purveyors of guesswork and conjecture categorically refuse Him. This can only be of personal sin, that one would prefer their personal suppositions and addiction to filthy sin over His divine Word.

And we should listen to the lost scum, rather than Him?

In Christ

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Curiosity Mars "landing" BIGGEST NASA HOAX EVER!!!

THE TIMOTHY AWARD for EXCELLENCE
demonstrating the inanities of false science
I Timothy 6:20

In science something is a hypothesis until "proven" except in science there's no such thing as proof

Awarded to IdiocyofMYUniverse for a truly stunning example of profane babbling. Well done.