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  • Brother Temperance
    Senior Usher
    True Christian™ missionary to the Unsaved Kingdom
    A very nice young man
    True Christian™
    • Sep 2006
    • 15621

    #1366
    Re: Are You an Atheist?

    Originally posted by howcanyoubelievethis View Post
    ok you missed the point of what i was trying to say. im not saying that i believe that either im saying that the story was around long before jesus and that he wasn't the first to do all these things.
    Yes, and Believer in God pointing out that Horus actually did not do all those things first in no way invalidates your point that Horus did all those things first. I'm glad you told her she was missing the point, you're clearly an expert in the field of point-missing and we can all benefit from your guidance.
    Originally posted by howcanyoubelievethis View Post
    i don't want to say that you shouldn't believe in god because if it makes you happy then good for you. However you cant call that a logical approach because there's no evidence to back up god.
    So this is how secularists approach the world? I give you an explanation and you refuse out of hand to consider it because it conflicts with your pre-existing beliefs? How close-minded.
    O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



    God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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    • BelieverInGod
      Fourm Member
      Forum Member
      • Feb 2010
      • 9269

      #1367
      Re: Are You an Atheist?

      Originally posted by howcanyoubelievethis View Post
      i don't want to say that you shouldn't believe in god because if it makes you happy then good for you. However you cant call that a logical approach because there's no evidence to back up god.
      Says the man who believes random stuff he's read on the Internet.

      What about all of the prophecies that have come true in the Bible?

      Originally posted by howcanyoubelievethis View Post
      im not looking down my nose at you, if you want to believe in god then who am i to say that's wrong. the forum was called are you atheist and i gave my answer and reasons that's all.
      Okay, I'm really starting to wonder how you've survived this long without drowning in the shower. Let me put this into itty-bitty-bits for you.

      1. You said the story of Jesus was stolen from the story of Horus
      2. I pointed out that the myth of Horus was nothing like the story of Jesus
      3. You can't grasp that concept because you're a fool

      Is that simple enough for you? I never said you believed in Horus.

      Oh you know what, forget it. It would be easier to explain this stuff to a wombat.
      Drama queen

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      • howcanyoubelievethis
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        • Jan 2011
        • 14

        #1368
        Re: Are You an Atheist?

        Originally posted by BelieverInGod View Post
        Says the man who believes random stuff he's read on the Internet.

        What about all of the prophecies that have come true in the Bible?


        Okay, I'm really starting to wonder how you've survived this long without drowning in the shower. Let me put this into itty-bitty-bits for you.

        1. You said the story of Jesus was stolen from the story of Horus
        2. I pointed out that the myth of Horus was nothing like the story of Jesus
        3. You can't grasp that concept because you're a fool

        Is that simple enough for you? I never said you believed in Horus.

        Oh you know what, forget it. It would be easier to explain this stuff to a wombat.
        i did read what you said and i except that i just believed what i heard on the internet. but i still dont think that god is real. why are babys born with diseases?, why is there inequality?, the list goes on about the suffering.

        p.s. what profices did come true i am actually interested to learn.

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        • Lost Sheep McUinnean
          Linguistics and Translation Consultant
          True Christian™
          • Nov 2009
          • 2193

          #1369
          Re: Are You an Atheist?

          Originally posted by howcanyoubelievethis View Post
          .
          p.s. what profices did come true i am actually interested to learn.
          So am I. What's a 'profice'?

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          • howcanyoubelievethis
            Unsaved trash
            • Jan 2011
            • 14

            #1370
            Re: Are You an Atheist?

            Originally posted by Brother Temperance View Post
            So this is how secularists approach the world? I give you an explanation and you refuse out of hand to consider it because it conflicts with your pre-existing beliefs? How close-minded.
            i could say the exact same thing about you.

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            • BelieverInGod
              Fourm Member
              Forum Member
              • Feb 2010
              • 9269

              #1371
              Re: Are You an Atheist?

              Originally posted by howcanyoubelievethis View Post
              i did read what you said and i except that i just believed what i heard on the internet. but i still dont think that god is real. why are babys born with diseases?, why is there inequality?, the list goes on about the suffering.

              p.s. what profices did come true i am actually interested to learn.
              What does this have to do with the Horus story being the same as the Jesus story? Please answer that question first! No instead, you'll ignore everything I said, the links I left you and keep going site to site saying "dur.... Jesus is the same as Horus..... dur".

              As for your questions,

              God made Children born with diseases for his own purpose
              Sin is the reason for inequality
              Where in the Bible does it ever say that "life's gonna be fair"? Please point out anywhere that God made a promise like that.

              Are you hearing yourself? You're stating that God isn't real because he doesn't run the world the way you think it should be run. Really? What are you 12? Do you go down to the corner store and scream at the guy behind the counter because you didn't win the lottery? Are you mad at God because you didn't get a scholarship.

              Or are you Just too stupid to understand the word of God?
              Drama queen

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              • howcanyoubelievethis
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                • Jan 2011
                • 14

                #1372
                Re: Are You an Atheist?

                Originally posted by Lost Sheep McUinnean View Post
                So am I. What's a 'profice'?
                you know i meant prophecy, when all you do is correct spelling and not give an answer it makes me think you dont have an answer

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                • howcanyoubelievethis
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                  • Jan 2011
                  • 14

                  #1373
                  Re: Are You an Atheist?

                  Originally posted by BelieverInGod View Post
                  What does this have to do with the Horus story being the same as the Jesus story? Please answer that question first! No instead, you'll ignore everything I said, the links I left you and keep going site to site saying "dur.... Jesus is the same as Horus..... dur".

                  As for your questions,

                  God made Children born with diseases for his own purpose
                  Sin is the reason for inequality
                  Where in the Bible does it ever say that "life's gonna be fair"? Please point out anywhere that God made a promise like that.

                  Are you hearing yourself? You're stating that God isn't real because he doesn't run the world the way you think it should be run. Really? What are you 12? Do you go down to the corner store and scream at the guy behind the counter because you didn't win the lottery? Are you mad at God because you didn't get a scholarship.

                  Or are you Just too stupid to understand the word of God?
                  no im saying that the storys arent the same and i was wrong.
                  what does god want with diseased babys?
                  and the main reason i dont believe in god is because i think everything that is told by him is just impossible.

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                  • BelieverInGod
                    Fourm Member
                    Forum Member
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 9269

                    #1374
                    Re: Are You an Atheist?

                    Originally posted by Lost Sheep McUinnean View Post
                    So am I. What's a 'profice'?
                    I assume the public school reject means "prophecies".

                    I'll list a few again, Although whenever I do they all scream "coincidence"

                    1. Lets see. All the birds and fish dying around the world

                    2. The destruction and recreation of Isreal Ezekiel 37:21

                    3. Daniel predicted Jesus' birth in approximately 538BC Daniel 9:24-27

                    4. The water cycle Ecclesiastes 1:7, "discovered" by Bernard Palissy in the 16th century

                    5. The church would become Lukewarm Rev 3:14-22

                    6. People becoming "lovers of themselves", since the "me revolution of the 1970's 2 Tim 3:1-7

                    7. "Alternate" lifestyles Lk 17:28

                    8. The Gospel will be published througout the world Mk 13:10 (remember that this was written before the invention of a printing press)

                    9. Nation rising against nation Matthew 24:7

                    10. Many false Christs Matthew 24:5
                    Drama queen

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                    • BelieverInGod
                      Fourm Member
                      Forum Member
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 9269

                      #1375
                      Re: Are You an Atheist?

                      Originally posted by howcanyoubelievethis View Post
                      no im saying that the storys arent the same and i was wrong.
                      what does god want with diseased babys?
                      and the main reason i dont believe in god is because i think everything that is told by him is just impossible.
                      Why do you demand we know the mind of God? I don't know God's reasons for things? I know what God put in his handy-dandy "guide to life" known as the KJV 1611 Bible.

                      How do you know what he says is impossible? Have you bothered to read the Bible? Try reading Job, Chapters 38 to 42, don't worry, they're short. They discuss how useless it is to question the will of God.
                      Drama queen

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                      • howcanyoubelievethis
                        Unsaved trash
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 14

                        #1376
                        Re: Are You an Atheist?

                        Originally posted by BelieverInGod View Post
                        I assume the public school reject means "prophecies".

                        I'll list a few again, Although whenever I do they all scream "coincidence"

                        1. Lets see. All the birds and fish dying around the world

                        2. The destruction and recreation of Isreal Ezekiel 37:21

                        3. Daniel predicted Jesus' birth in approximately 538BC Daniel 9:24-27

                        4. The water cycle Ecclesiastes 1:7, "discovered" by Bernard Palissy in the 16th century

                        5. The church would become Lukewarm Rev 3:14-22

                        6. People becoming "lovers of themselves", since the "me revolution of the 1970's 2 Tim 3:1-7

                        7. "Alternate" lifestyles Lk 17:28

                        8. The Gospel will be published througout the world Mk 13:10 (remember that this was written before the invention of a printing press)

                        9. Nation rising against nation Matthew 24:7

                        10. Many false Christs Matthew 24:5
                        have you ever seen the zeitgeist movement video?

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                        • BelieverInGod
                          Fourm Member
                          Forum Member
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 9269

                          #1377
                          Re: Are You an Atheist?

                          Originally posted by howcanyoubelievethis View Post
                          have you ever seen the zeitgeist movement video?
                          No, but I predicted that you would just dismiss the predictions from the Bible

                          There's over 10,000 of them, you know.
                          Drama queen

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                          • howcanyoubelievethis
                            Unsaved trash
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 14

                            #1378
                            Re: Are You an Atheist?

                            Originally posted by BelieverInGod View Post
                            No, but I predicted that you would just dismiss the predictions from the Bible

                            There's over 10,000 of them, you know.


                            theres a link you'll go watch it if you have an open mind.

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                            • Didymus Much
                              Unsaved trash, Arrogant Atheist Dick
                              • Jun 2010
                              • 14076

                              #1379
                              Re: Are You an Atheist?

                              Originally posted by howcanyoubelievethis View Post
                              have you ever seen the zeitgeist movement video?
                              Let's see what Wikipedia has to say: "In addition to being characterized as 'nonsense', it has been criticized for reported factual inaccuracies, and the quality of its arguments."

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                              • Brother Temperance
                                Senior Usher
                                True Christian™ missionary to the Unsaved Kingdom
                                A very nice young man
                                True Christian™
                                • Sep 2006
                                • 15621

                                #1380
                                Re: Are You an Atheist?

                                Originally posted by howcanyoubelievethis View Post
                                have you ever seen the zeitgeist movement video?
                                Please don't tell me that someone calling themselves "How can you believe this?" is going to turn out to believe in Zeitgeist, a film variously described as "the greatest story ever garbled", "conspiracy crap", "a magical fairyland dominated by evil villains... fiction, couched in a few facts" and an "Entertaining Big Lie... patently false but incredibly seductive... like a bit-borne, pernicious narcotic... po-faced, visually illiterate, polemically challenged, pornographic bullsh*t." You're not really going to tell me that you believe in that, are you? Because that would be incredibly disappointing.
                                O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



                                God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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