[Yosemite Sam]

Re: Ten points that CRUSH Atheism

The following ten points absolutely destroy Atheism.

#1 Atheists have no mercy or pity for others.
Time and time again history as shown with the Nazis, the Communists, the New Deal, the Spanish Inquisition that atheists will behave in a cruel and callous manner towards thier fellow man.

#2 To an Atheist a natural disaster is just a random event
Only a Christian can understand that when a building collapses in an earthquake that is the hand of God slaying sinners. Atheists are willfully blind to the unconditional tough love of God for His creation. In short Atheists lack pity for those who are killed in these disasters.

#4To an atheists there is no difference between an animal and a human
To an Atheist A pig or a human, an ape or a human, what is the difference? For Atheists they are all products of random chance. If Atheists were true to their beliefs they would be running around naked and tossing feces at each other and eating other people. They lack the compassion for their fellow man to realize animals are just tools placed here for us to use as we see fit.

#5 Only biblical faith offers objective standards of good and evil.
One just has to look at atheists societies like ancient Rome to see they had completely different morality than the Christian society of the West now. Rome lived by a philosophy of might makes right that gave Rome the moral superiority to invade their neighbors. Contrast that with America's war of liberation in Iraq and Mexico in 1848. Christians have the morality to know when their neighbors are evil and need to be destroyed.

#6 Atheists have no reason to feel pity for anyone or anything.
Sure Atheists may feel pity in their hearts of hearts but philosophically they have no reason to. Carving another human being up to them is just like carving a pig.

#7 Threw out human history there have never been any other gods but God.
God is the only God humanity ever had. Sure various confused pagans called God by different names like Thor, Zeus, Angra Mainyu and Kali but that has always been God. The past was not atheists, it Was Christian.

#8 There were false gods, but they were false because they exist within the Universe, not outside it.
No atheist can show us a false god who existed outside the universe so case closed.

#9 Any religion younger than Christianity is just a copy of Christianity.
Since Christianity is the Gold standard of morality all other religions just copy Christian doctrine like Islam. Atheism is younger than Christianity therefor Atheism is a mockery of Christianity.

#10 Only Christianity has ever had the idea of an eternal, infinite creator God.
No one, not the Egyptians, the Meso-Americans or even the Sumerians has a infinite God. Even Atheism doesn't have an infinite creator God.

I await your rebuttals to my points Atheists.

1. That's not true first for some nazis that was different http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...3121903AAO4kSp 2nd thats more of an opinion then a fact you have no real proof.

2. When a earthquake happens it means the plates are moving and there thousands of good innocent souls dieing that believe in God so that kills your theory right there that God slayers the bad.

3.You skipped 3

4.Thats called animal rights you dick and just because they don't take off there clothes and roll around in mud does not mean there hypocrites it means there more aware then animals and would rather have a coffee then turd or go in a nice house then a doghouse.

5.What the hell are you saying right here? and in Rome most people believed in God

6. Asian another opinion a very bad one at that.

7. Threw out human history? because of Christianity we almost lost 1500 years of science progression and thats based on facts.

8. Do we have a facepalm emote?

9.Atheism is not a religion you dumb ass and be as it may that Christianity was around for a long time does not mean all other religions are false.

10. Your so wrong about that.

[Cranky Old Man]

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3.You skipped 3

No he didn't, you forgot to quote it. You have to stop blaming others for your own stupid mistakes. It's pathetic. Obama voter I presume?

10. Your so wrong about that.

Are your arguments always this impressive? Oprah watcher I presume?

[GodLovesMeForWhoIAm]

Re: Ten points that CRUSH Atheism

It's spelt "throughout". You're clearly an intelligent person who can articulately express sensible views. Not.
Seriously, you're making the rest of us Christians look bad.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Ten points that CRUSH Atheism

It's spelt "throughout". You're clearly an intelligent person who can articulately express sensible views. Not.
Seriously, you're making the rest of us Christians look bad.

Thank you friend, just my native Yinz accent showing threw in my righting.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Ten points that CRUSH Atheism

It's spelt "throughout". You're clearly an intelligent person who can articulately express sensible views. Not.
Seriously, you're making the rest of us Christians look bad.

You are not a Christian.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Ten points that CRUSH Atheism

Seriously, you're making the rest of us Christians look bad.

God doesn't love everybody:

Proverbs 6
[16] These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
[17] A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
[18] An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
[19] A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

And don't give me any "He hates the sin, not the sinner" crap...

Matthew 13
[38] The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
[39] The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
[40] As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
[41] The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
[42] And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

[Nanaaa]

Re: Ten points that CRUSH Atheism

I know this is not a debating forum but I think for this topic we atheists have the right to express our disagreements, right.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Ten points that CRUSH Atheism

I know this is not a debating forum but I think for this topic we atheists have the right to express our disagreements, right.

Wrong. You are not welcome here. Now shoo!

"Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds" -- 2 John 1:9-11

2 Chronicles 15:13
Whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.

[Nanaaa]

Re: Ten points that CRUSH Atheism

Wrong. You are not welcome here. Now shoo!

Well I'm sorry that you had to go trought all the trouble of deleting my original comment. This forum isn't debating forum and I'm not here to debate. Anyhow, this topic is for debating quite obviouisly (the starter statet his facts and asked atheists to explain how they see this subject. I did that, that's called a debate). I haven't been mocking God by any means. I respect you and your God but He's not something I've yet experienced. Maybe someday I and then I'm more than happy to start a new life as a devoted Chrtisian. I find Christianity interesting and I think I've been behaving pretty good here for an atheist. I mean some of the comments made by other atheists are really hurtful and bad. And I know that since I'm not Christian I'm not really very desired here but I wish to continue chatting here because I want to learn more about your religion and Google really doesn't do it for me. And I've tried my best to be respectful towards you all. Hope the same in return.

[True Disciple]

Re: Ten points that CRUSH Atheism

Well I'm sorry that you had to go trought all the trouble of deleting my original comment. This forum isn't debating forum and I'm not here to debate. Anyhow, this topic is for debating quite obviouisly (the starter statet his facts and asked atheists to explain how they see this subject. I did that, that's called a debate). I haven't been mocking God by any means. I respect you and your God but He's not something I've yet experienced. Maybe someday I and then I'm more than happy to start a new life as a devoted Chrtisian. I find Christianity interesting and I think I've been behaving pretty good here for an atheist. I mean some of the comments made by other atheists are really hurtful and bad. And I know that since I'm not Christian I'm not really very desired here but I wish to continue chatting here because I want to learn more about your religion and Google really doesn't do it for me. And I've tried my best to be respectful towards you all. Hope the same in return.

Friend, if you want to learn about our religion, I think you could best look at our Bible Study subforum. You will find everything about True Christian(tm) Doctrine there!

[Nanaaa]

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Friend, if you want to learn about our religion, I think you could best look at our Bible Study subforum. You will find everything about True Christian™ Doctrine there!

Honestly, this is the first relatively nice answer I've got here. Thx!

[Boudica]

Re: Ten points that CRUSH Atheism

#7 Throughout human history there have never been any other gods but God.
God is the only God humanity ever had. Sure various confused pagans called God by different names like Thor, Zeus, Angra Mainyu and Kali but that has always been God. The past was not atheists, it Was Christian.

I'm only familiar with Norse and Greek Mythology out of all those, but I'd like to point out that Thor and Zeus were just one of the multiple gods in the stories. What about the others? Were they your God too? Including the Goddesses? If Zeus is just god called by a different name, then you are saying your God repeatedly committed adultry against his wife, as Zeus did? And Odin (whom I'm assuming you meant instead of Thor, because Odin was the head god of the Norse stories) was interested sexually in Freyja [a Norse Goddess, NOT his wife {his wife being Frigg}] which means he was NOT your God, because your God does not approve such thoughts.

AND why do you not believe in Odin, Thor, Zeus, etc? It's been said that they are gods, and their stories have been around for awhile, so why do you choose to believe in YOUR god? What makes him any different than them? And blindly saying "because he IS God" is not a valid point, because I could say Zebras ARE pink, but that does not make it true. I'm actually curious, so please don't cop out and use that line?

[Booger]

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They were both atheists. Many millions of people have been killed because of wars started in the name of atheism.

Hmm yea Hitler was a christian not an athiest...heres a quote from Mein Kampf:

"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."

Lol Millions have been killed by athiests? What about god himself?
Just type in how many people god killed and you'll get around 2,200,000+.

But this isn't a complete list since the bible leaves out alot of figures aka flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, the firstborn Egyptian children, and women...so I'd say add on another 10 million....also a funny thing about the bible is that satan only killed 10 people...which god himself gave him permission to do...sooooo yea just add ten more to god's total

Now don't get me started with the crusades...spanish inquisition, every holy war in mankind since you think all those other gods were just jesus and his dad lol...let alone every person the Church had put to death for not being a christian...so yeaaaaa ill give you the millions and ill also give you the billions upon billions that Christians (i.e. since point #7 says all the other gods were actually god himself)...you know just writing this makes me wonder how a civilized person can actually take the bible serisouly...oh well

[Booger]

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Hmm yea Hitler was a christian not an athiest...heres a quote from Mein Kampf:

"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."

Lol Millions have been killed by athiests? What about god himself?
Just type in how many people god killed and you'll get around 2,200,000+.

But this isn't a complete list since the bible leaves out alot of figures aka flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, the firstborn Egyptian children, and women...so I'd say add on another 10 million....also a funny thing about the bible is that satan only killed 10 people...which god himself gave him permission to do...sooooo yea just add ten more to god's total

Now don't get me started with the crusades...spanish inquisition, every holy war in mankind since you think all those other gods were just jesus and his dad lol...let alone every person the Church had put to death for not being a christian...so yeaaaaa ill give you the millions and ill also give you the billions upon billions that Christians (i.e. since point #7 says all the other gods were actually god himself)...you know just writing this makes me wonder how a civilized person can actually take the bible serisouly...oh well

oops forgot to end that sentence properly, *ahem* Ill give you the millions that athiests have caused but then ill also give you the billions upon billions that christians have caused

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

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Hmm yea Hitler was a christian not an athiest...heres a quote from Mein Kampf:

"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."

In his public persona. In private he said things like this.

• "National Socialism and religion cannot exist together....
  "The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity....
  "Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things." (p 6 & 7)

10th October, 1941, midday

• "Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure." (p 43)

14th October, 1941, midday

• "The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death.... When understanding of the universe has become widespread... Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity....
  "Christianity has reached the peak of absurdity.... And that's why someday its structure will collapse....
  "...the only way to get rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little by little....
  "Christianity <is> the liar....
  "We'll see to it that the Churches cannot spread abroad teachings in conflict with the interests of the State." (p 49-52)

19th October, 1941, night

• "The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity."

21st October, 1941, midday

• "Originally, Christianity was merely an incarnation of Bolshevism, the destroyer....
  "The decisive falsification of Jesus' <who he asserts many times was never a Jew> doctrine was the work of St.Paul. He gave himself to this work... for the purposes of personal exploitation....
  "Didn't the world see, carried on right into the Middle Ages, the same old system of martyrs, tortures, faggots? Of old, it was in the name of Christianity. Today, it's in the name of Bolshevism. Yesterday the instigator was Saul: the instigator today, Mardochai. Saul was changed into St.Paul, and Mardochai into Karl Marx. By exterminating this pest, we shall do humanity a service of which our soldiers can have no idea." (p 63-65)

13th December, 1941, midnight

• "Christianity is an invention of sick brains: one could imagine nothing more senseless, nor any more indecent way of turning the idea of the Godhead into a mockery.... <here insults people who believe transubstantiation>....
  "When all is said, we have no reason to wish that the Italians and Spaniards should free themselves from the drug of Christianity. Let's be the only people who are immunised against the disease." (p 118-119)

14th December, 1941, midday

• "Kerrl, with noblest of intentions, wanted to attempt a synthesis between National Socialism and Christianity. I don't believe the thing's possible, and I see the obstacle in Christianity itself....
  "Pure Christianity-- the Christianity of the catacombs-- is concerned with translating Christian doctrine into facts. It leads quite simply to the annihilation of mankind. It is merely whole-hearted Bolshevism, under a tinsel of metaphysics." (p 119 & 120)

9th April, 1942, dinner

• "There is something very unhealthy about Christianity." (p 339)

27th February, 1942, midday

• "It would always be disagreeable for me to go down to posterity as a man who made concessions in this field. I realize that man, in his imperfection, can commit innumerable errors-- but to devote myself deliberately to errors, that is something I cannot do. I shall never come personally to terms with the Christian lie."
  "Our epoch in the next 200 years will certainly see the end of the disease of Christianity.... My regret will have been that I couldn't... behold <its demise>." (p 278)