[Gabriel Reproba]

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The Bible was written milleniums ago, which means that here is some place for inaccuracy.

This is an error. What God said thousands of years ago is just as True today as it was then. God is eternal and always right.

As I am sure you know, the Bible was written by different people, which lived at different days.

Yes, it was physically written by men (i.e. Men put the ink to the paper) but the AUTHOR is God. God authored the Bible and the men just wrote down His words. Understand?

So my point is, how can we possibly admit everything in this book while we are unable to verify its accuracy and relevance?

Name ONE thing in the Bible which we can not verify.

[Magnetman]

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My point about the Bible's writing date and inacuracy is not what you think. The point being this is that it was written and written again by numerous people during this time lapse. The inacuracy there is that there can be translation errors or even modified details in the stories . Second, that's something we could try to verify... Finally, the first thing to come to my mind would be this part in which Jesus walked on water. I can try it or you could do it yourself or maybe ask Jesus to come back to show us btu as far as I can tell, it doesn't work like that.

[Cranky Old Man]

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the first thing to come to my mind would be this part in which Jesus walked on water. I can try it or you could do it yourself or maybe ask Jesus to come back to show us btu as far as I can tell, it doesn't work like that.

Don't you think someone who created everything, earth, animals, humans, would be capable of walking on water? There are no limits to what God can do! Luke 18:27 "And he said, The things which are impossible with men are possible with God."

[Lisa H]

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My point about the Bible's writing date and inacuracy is not what you think. The point being this is that it was written and written again by numerous people during this time lapse. The inacuracy there is that there can be translation errors or even modified details in the stories . Second, that's something we could try to verify... Finally, the first thing to come to my mind would be this part in which Jesus walked on water. I can try it or you could do it yourself or maybe ask Jesus to come back to show us btu as far as I can tell, it doesn't work like that.

Jesus did walk on water. There is even a lizard that can walk on water, guess what it is called, Jesus Lizard.

[Gabriel Reproba]

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The point being this is that it was written and written again by numerous people during this time lapse. The inacuracy there is that there can be translation errors or even modified details in the stories .

And you are AVOIDING my point: GOD authored the Bible. NOT MEN. Men physically wrote down the words, but EVERY SCRIBBLE and EVERY DOT was authored by GOD. If words change then that is GOD'S INTENTION. The fact that they HAVE NOT CHANGED EVER is a testament to the fact that GOD WANTS US TO LISTEN.

Do you understand this? Do you get what I am saying. You keep talking about time and men writing things down as if that has ANYTHING to do with GOD'S WILL.

Let me put it this way:

It has withstood all the tests of time, Many have tried to discredit it but have failed, they can ignore and deny it all they want, doesn't it make any less the Truth than It is. even when the RCC began corrupting, adding to and taking away ETC, God made sure it got to His Peoples in tact :-) the catholics have "their" version along with all their "supplemental" Blaspheme's, but the majority of Christians Have the Truth, we all just need to Seek It , understand It and Live in It, lest we be decieved!

[Sheldon the Swede]

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And you are AVOIDING my point: GOD authored the Bible. NOT MEN. Men physically wrote down the words, but EVERY SCRIBBLE and EVERY DOT was authored by GOD. If words change then that is GOD'S INTENTION. The fact that they HAVE NOT CHANGED EVER is a testament to the fact that GOD WANTS US TO LISTEN.

Do you understand this? Do you get what I am saying. You keep talking about time and men writing things down as if that has ANYTHING to do with GOD'S WILL.

Let me put it this way:

It has withstood all the tests of time, Many have tried to discredit it but have failed, they can ignore and deny it all they want, doesn't it make any less the Truth than It is. even when the RCC began corrupting, adding to and taking away ETC, God made sure it got to His Peoples in tact :-) the catholics have "their" version along with all their "supplemental" Blaspheme's, but the majority of Christians Have the Truth, we all just need to Seek It , understand It and Live in It, lest we be decieved!

So anybody who says "I'm inspired by God" and writes a book must be believed?

Or not?

How can you know they are truly inspired by god and were not deillusional?

Because they say so? Very professional.

You can say all you want about how beautiful the bible is, but it's written by men who SAYS that they are inspired by god, you can't use the bible as a proof of their inspiration because THEY have written it, how do you know it's from god?

Anybody can do that, write a beautiful verse and say 'these are god words'

I'm also noticing that the bible has been changed over the 2000 years since it's creation. How do you know these changes were god's words? Because they say so? Do you believe anybody who says so?

[Gabriel Reproba]

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So anybody who says "I'm inspired by God" and writes a book must be believed?

Of course not. That would be ridiculous!

How can you know they are truly inspired by god and were not deillusional?

Because they say so? Very professional.

Do YOU believe every loon who comes along and writes a book about something he made up? Oh wait...you do:

You can say all you want about how beautiful the bible is, but it's written by men who SAYS that they are inspired by god, you can't use the bible as a proof of their inspiration because THEY have written it, how do you know it's from god?

Because what it says is TRUE.

Anybody can do that, write a beautiful verse and say 'these are god words'

I think that even you will agree that it takes a special person to really do that. We haven't seen one in 2000 years.

I'm also noticing that the bible has been changed over the 2000 years since it's creation.

The KJV Bible has never changed.

How do you know these changes were god's words? Because they say so? Do you believe anybody who says so?

Perversions by those who have an agenda to avoid the tough love parts of the Bible or to support their own bid for power:

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

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My point about the Bible's writing date and inacuracy is not what you think. The point being this is that it was written and written again by numerous people during this time lapse. The inacuracy there is that there can be translation errors or even modified details in the stories . Second, that's something we could try to verify... Finally, the first thing to come to my mind would be this part in which Jesus walked on water. I can try it or you could do it yourself or maybe ask Jesus to come back to show us btu as far as I can tell, it doesn't work like that.

Sir, as an atheist, you must seek a rational answer, it's understood. As a Christian, I don't have to - this story makes perfect sense as it is.

[Louise1987]

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I seem to notice that everytime an atheist reply to one of these post Pastor Ezekiel come up with that "this is not a debate".

And yet you want ahteist to try to refute your points, so that you can prove you're right, which turn it into a debate....

But in reality, you don't want your points to be refuted. You just want to revel in the glory when a fellow member tells each other how right you are.

[Sheldon the Swede]

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Of course not. That would be ridiculous!

Do YOU believe every loon who comes along and writes a book about something he made up? Oh wait...you do:




Because what it says is TRUE.

I think that even you will agree that it takes a special person to really do that. We haven't seen one in 2000 years.

The KJV Bible has never changed.

Perversions by those who have an agenda to avoid the tough love parts of the Bible or to support their own bid for power:

Very funny about Darwin, but no, I don't believe anybody who claims to be a scientist, I try to listen and understand what he says and if that occurs with his observations and logic, you don't do that at all.

By the way, Darwin's theory wasn't right about everything, there were some faults, but the theory has been revisited and performed over the decades, what Darwin hadn't right in his book is now correct by modern technology and observations.

And what do you do? You think that some dudes that claimed to be inspired by god are 100% correct about some crazy stories.

Very naive to me.

[BluuddyChrist]

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The following ten points absolutely destroy Atheism.

#1 Atheists have no mercy or pity for others.
Time and time again history as shown with the Nazis, the Communists, the New Deal, the Spanish Inquisition that atheists will behave in a cruel and callous manner towards thier fellow man.

Hitler was a Christian. Point one is invalid

#2 To an Atheist a natural disaster is just a random event
Only a Christian can understand that when a building collapses in an earthquake that is the hand of God slaying sinners. Atheists are willfully blind to the unconditional tough love of God for His creation. In short Atheists lack pity for those who are killed in these disasters.

They not just random events, your just crazy.

#4To an atheists there is no difference between an animal and a human
To an Atheist A pig or a human, an ape or a human, what is the difference? For Atheists they are all products of random chance. If Atheists were true to their beliefs they would be running around naked and tossing feces at each other and eating other people. They lack the compassion for their fellow man to realize animals are just tools placed here for us to use as we see fit.

Yes there is. Pigs don't talk and taste better than people. 'Nuff said.

#5 Only biblical faith offers objective standards of good and evil.
One just has to look at atheists societies like ancient Rome to see they had completely different morality than the Christian society of the West now. Rome lived by a philosophy of might makes right that gave Rome the moral superiority to invade their neighbors. Contrast that with America's war of liberation in Iraq and Mexico in 1848. Christians have the morality to know when their neighbors are evil and need to be destroyed.

What about Ethics? They don't count?

#6 Atheists have no reason to feel pity for anyone or anything.
Sure Atheists may feel pity in their hearts of hearts but philosophically they have no reason to. Carving another human being up to them is just like carving a pig.

Yes we do, I guess you never heard of pity sex. That is a good reason.

#7 Threw out human history there have never been any other gods but God.
God is the only God humanity ever had. Sure various confused pagans called God by different names like Thor, Zeus, Angra Mainyu and Kali but that has always been God. The past was not atheists, it Was Christian.

I think Christians confuse Thor, Zeus, Angra, Mainyu and Kali and call them God because they can't remember the names

#8 There were false gods, but they were false because they exist within the Universe, not outside it.
No atheist can show us a false god who existed outside the universe so case closed.

You can't show me a God that lives in our universe.

#9 Any religion younger than Christianity is just a copy of Christianity.
Since Christianity is the Gold standard of morality all other religions just copy Christian doctrine like Islam. Atheism is younger than Christianity therefor Atheism is a mockery of Christianity.

Christianity is the worlds youngest religion

#10 Only Christianity has ever had the idea of an eternal, infinite creator God.
No one, not the Egyptians, the Meso-Americans or even the Sumerians has a infinite God. Even Atheism doesn't have an infinite creator God.

I await your rebuttals to my points Atheists.

I have an infinite God. I win bitch.

[BluuddyChrist]

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They see me trollin' They hatin'!

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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Hey I do not mean to sound rude or anything. Im not an Atheist but until someone can provide full hard proof then i can not believe in him.

Um, that pretty much makes you an atheist. Atheists are those who do not believe in God. You just said you don't believe in God. You = atheist.

Hitler was a Christian. Point one is invalid

So you have no comment on Communists, New Dealers, or Inquisitors? How does that make point one invalid?

Christianity is the worlds youngest religion

Except for Buddhism, Islam, Jain, Wicca, Satanism, Humanism, Unitarianism, the Cthulhu Cult, Scientology, Falun Gong, Pastardfarianism, Rastafarianism, Santeria, Oprahism, Sikhism . . .

Oh, and you're an idiot, which is why I didn't bother to respond to the rest of your witless blather.

[homohater101]

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I like turtles. And boys. And I'm a boy. And I'm atheist.

[homohater101]

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You forgot the number three.