[randomperson321]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

What does that mean? There is some situation where you should NOT FOLLOW

when it contradicts the laws set by the government.

For example, this rape thread. If my daughter gets raped, and pregnant, I am not going to let this vile rapist pay me then marry her.

I don't want anything to do with him. I will call the police have him arrested, put in jail and feel good about myself that I protected other people's daughters from this person.

If that is a sin then send me to hell. I live in the real world, where sexism, racism, and antisemitism are a thing of the past. You were born in the land of the free where everyone is equal, act like it.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

when it contradicts the laws set by the government.

The law set by government does not prevent your daughter marrying her rapist. This is only fair because the law follows God's Law.

If my daughter gets raped, and pregnant, I am not going to let this vile rapist pay me then marry her.

Well, I admit that a father should have the final say in to whom his daughter is married, but you're drawing a fine line between allowing the rapist to pay and forbidding him to marry

I don't want anything to do with him.

Well, you won't. Once your daughter marries, she becomes his family, not yours. That's why the Pastor asks, "Who gives this woman away?"

I will call the police have him arrested, put in jail and feel good about myself that I protected other people's daughters from this person.

How would you be protecting others? I don't understand? Why would he want to go round raping other people when he has your daughter?

If that is a sin then send me to hell.

I'm not sure it is a sin - I'll have to look into it. The Bible is clear that the rapist should pay you and that your daughter should be married to him, if he pays. OTOH, there is the question of your permission. Please bear in mind that if you turn him down, there's no one else will want your daughter - she's soiled goods and will never have a husband or sons.

God sends people to Hell, not us - we only advise if your behavior is likely to take you to Hell.

I live in the real world, where sexism, racism, and antisemitism are a thing of the past.

Really? You don't read newspapers or watch TV then?

You were born in the land of the free where everyone is equal, act like it.

Equality??? You are the one discriminating against a perfectly ordinary rapist!

[PrinsesseAnja]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

Friends,

I recently received a letter from a concerned parent. In the letter she told me that her daughter had been raped, but was refusing to marry her rapist as per Deuteronomy 22:28-29. The stupid girl actually wants to press charges on the man!

Not only that, but that she also plans to kill the poor unborn baby her rapist had given her! Sickening! Have young people today got NO morals?

Any and all advice on what I can say to convince this girl to do the right thing would be great. Should I start with the basics ?

"Whore, you'll burn in Hell for all eternity - unless you marry your rapist"??

Or should I go for a more subtle approach??

Scripture:

Deuteronomy 22:28-29 (King James Version)

If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.

I hope the man who raped her will get LIFE TIME in jail. I would rather burn in hell than marry a sick person who raped me. And get and abortion? YES! of couse she should get that. Why give birth to a child you not will love? A bad memory... Poor girl, i really feel sorry for her,and i you guys don't, you are just unhuman.....

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

I hope the man who raped her will get LIFE TIME in jail. I would rather burn in hell than marry a sick person who raped me. And get and abortion? YES! of couse she should get that. Why give birth to a child you not will love? A bad memory... Poor girl, i really feel sorry for her,and i you guys don't, you are just unhuman.....

Why is that particular verse in your signature?

Leviticus 19:29 (King James Version)

29: Do not prostitute thy daughter, to cause her to be a whore; lest the land fall to whoredom, and the land become full of wickedness.

You would agree with that sentiment and say that it's a good thing, but why do you say that Deuteronomy 22:28-29 is any less valid?

[Law-man]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

Why did you rape that boy?
Are you a homer?

The overall intelligence represented by your leaders is astounding, I clearly have stated I have a wife, Cletus. You are the one with the barbaric courting rituals.

They are NOT our laws

If you can't obey the laws of the land put in place here to protect it's citizens from bias hate and religious prosicution, and furthermore refuse to obey your own contadictory Bible [Romans 13:1]. Then leave our country. No one is making you stay. Try and enforce these archaic laws and face the judgement of my country. This is infalable, this is true, this is just, it is real and thats what bothers you most.

The United States Of America is alive and well. We can fight 3 world wars back to back and still offer assistance to our neighbors and trade partners, the Japanese in thier time of need. Oh, you don't like the Japanese? LOL! Get off your computer, and most of you can quit driving your cars. The U.S.A. imports these great tools from a people you condemn to hell, so it's beyond obvious that you reap the benefits of this country, and contribute negativity, greed and malice. You have been found guilty of Hypocracy by allowing yourself the use of these devices while keeping a xenophobic attitude.

Semper Fi, I Have Faith, Trust and Love for my Country and have fought to keep it this way.

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

Semper Fi, I Have Faith, Trust and Love for my Country and have fought to keep it this way.

Just until we fundamentalists can wrest control of the Government. We already make up around half of the Republican voting rolls. It's only a matter of time until we can get rid of those namby pampy liberal laws and establish a True Christian American Empire. Our laws will be based on the King James Bible. The dissenters will find themselves in the deserts of the southwest in work camps.

[Law-man]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

Even if that were true, that's what 25%? 25% can't dictate to the rest of the citizens. By the way, some wacko president can touch the constitution only congress.

Not going to happen, my wishful malefactor. The_Rape_laws_of_Every_Country are listed in blue. Pay attention to detail, it's never going to change. It's a crime everywhere and for a reason.

The_First_Amendment giving the people of this land the right to choose their religion can be read in provided link. It cannot be amended in such a manner. Congress decideds amendments and Congress is still a mixed people appointed by each state and both democrat and republican. (We, the people of the United States have measures in place protecting against your wishes)

This was already played out when christains played a more dominant in society back in the Supreme Courts ruling of 1878 reguarding the Free_Exercise_Clause But hey, dont forget your own history of religious prosicution, in all your glory being a protestant.

These_are_the_natural_Laws of the world and many religious Leaders already agreed there be no further religious prosicution. Thats why we celebrate Thanksgiving! No more slavery/free labor for you. Even animals have rights now. LOL

The National Census doesnt seem to be in your favor as seen here showing that 16.1% of Americans described themselves as agnostic, athiest, or simply having no religion at all, up from 8.2% in 1990. thats almost doubled! Obviously one of you fanatics are doing something wrong.

Evolution wins out in public schools as seen here as intelligent design is considered a psuedoscience with no means for experiment, and therefore having no basis in fact, and propose no new hypothesis.

If thats not enough look here to see how religion holds up against the consitutional rights. Loss after devistating loss when you contend with this prize fighter.

Flex those panzy fundamentalist muscles and put your money where your mouth is today! Because time is on my side. (Oh, Yes it is!)


The evidence has been weighed, measured and you have been found wanting. The Constitution that I protect stands and if one of your sheeple commits rape punished and put on a sex offenders list. all the while the American media breaks your laws in newer ways everyday.

Incase you havent noticed:
Freedom is the basis in EVERY Government document.

[Law-man]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

Dear Law-man,

You have received an infraction at The Landover Baptist Church Forum.

Reason: Going yappity yap yap yappity
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Your hateful persecution will not go unchallenged.
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This infraction is worth 15 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire.

"Going yappity yap yap yappity" ROFL LMAO oh me. oh my!

Is this how you hold up? This is a weak, uninteresting display of failure to rebuttle. Try telling it to a judge when a paritioner is tried for rape.

[Law-man]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

Your hateful persecution will not go unchallenged.

It just did via this lame infraction.

Sorry but, "Going yappity yap yap yappity" is invalid.

Provide facts that stand, provide tangible evidence that you are correct, and provide sources for this data, or this isn't a "challenge" at all.

A "True Christian American Empire" that enslaves people "in the deserts of the southwest in work camps" is a tyranical fantasy. This is why people teach and learn history, to prevent Hitler-like tyrants from gaining power.

Keep the acts of desperation coming, you can't steal free will. But you've still got this forum to precide over, don't you?

[randomperson321]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

The law set by government does not prevent your daughter marrying her rapist.

But the government's laws prohibit rape, this thread and some replies make me feel like rape is ok. That is what I feel is contradictory.


How would you be protecting others? I don't understand? Why would he want to go round raping other people when he has your daughter?

There are some people out there who enjoy finding girls and raping as many as they can. I'd be happy to put someone like that behind bars if I could. I'm protecting other people's daughters from a person like that.


Please bear in mind that if you turn him down, there's no one else will want your daughter - she's soiled goods and will never have a husband or sons.

I'd rather let her live as a single mom than with a person who raped her.

Equality??? You are the one discriminating against a perfectly ordinary rapist!

Ordinary Rapist? A rapist is given that status because of his own actions. Black people did not choose to be black, so why should they be discriminated against?

My views are obviously not popular here, fair enough, but I try to live in the 21st century too.

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

Even if that were true, that's what 25%? 25% can't dictate to the rest of the citizens. By the way, some wacko president can touch the constitution only congress.

We'll get it some day. Have no worries. If the republic fell today, what kind of government would take its place? Would it be a bunch of communists? Of course not. We would have a strong right wing government.

Not going to happen, my wishful malefactor. The_Rape_laws_of_Every_Country are listed in blue. Pay attention to detail, it's never going to change. It's a crime everywhere and for a reason.

Never going to change.
I wonder if liberals like you thought the same thing in Iran in the late 1970's.

The_First_Amendment giving the people of this land the right to choose their religion can be read in provided link. It cannot be amended in such a manner. Congress decideds amendments and Congress is still a mixed people appointed by each state and both democrat and republican. (We, the people of the United States have measures in place protecting against your wishes)

Things change.

The National Census doesnt seem to be in your favor as seen here showing that 16.1% of Americans described themselves as agnostic, athiest, or simply having no religion at all, up from 8.2% in 1990. thats almost doubled! Obviously one of you fanatics are doing something wrong.

It ebbs and flows. There were almost 100% atheists and agnostics in France during the revolutionary period. The pendulum swung back the other way once Napoleon couldn't rule effectively without the clergy on his side.

Evolution wins out in public schools as seen here as intelligent design is considered a psuedoscience with no means for experiment, and therefore having no basis in fact, and propose no new hypothesis.

Texas and Kansas are just the beginning. First, we get intelligent design taught alongside evolution and then we start to squeeze.

[Jack O'fagan]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

The overall intelligence represented by your leaders is astounding,

The United States Of America is alive and well. We can fight 3 world wars back to back and still offer assistance to our neighbors and trade partners,

Did I miss something?? You do know that 'Independence Day' wasn't a documentary?

Jack

[randomperson321]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

We'll get it some day. Have no worries. If the republic fell today, what kind of government would take its place? Would it be a bunch of communists? Of course not. We would have a strong right wing government.

Dear Pastor:

I mean no disrespect by this, but I do not think you understand politics or political ideologies.

Our USMC friend here seems to be a strong constitutionalists, which is actually more republican than democrat.

Strong government and right wing, are oxymormons. Right Wing favours less government, lower taxes, lets people do what they want, and stays out of their life. ie. Libertarian (root wood liberty, not liberal)

As well, do you actually know what communism is? It is not just a tag for Russians in the 20th century or people you don't like.. It is a economic theory based on Karl Marx, where the power of the country should be with the workers and common people, land and resources are redistributed so everyone is equal.

A form of it is practiced today and the countries are doing fine, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Iceland, Finland. It is called socialism.

and if you remember correctly Hitler started the National Socialist Party which took the power away from the rich Aristocrats and gave it to the poor common German worker. His original problem with Jews is that they were the minority but controlled all the wealth and suppressed the natural German. If you watched Joseph Goebbels' The Eternal Jew you would know that.

It ebbs and flows. There were almost 100% atheists and agnostics in France during the revolutionary period. The pendulum swung back the other way once Napoleon couldn't rule effectively without the clergy on his side.

decristianisation occurred because the church, who owned all the land and taxed people, was as strong as the state and the people were revolting against the people who suppressed them. They didnt turn atheist beforehand.

[Cursed]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

It just did via this lame infraction.

Sorry but, "Going yappity yap yap yappity" is invalid.

Provide facts that stand, provide tangible evidence that you are correct, and provide sources for this data, or this isn't a "challenge" at all.

A "True Christian American Empire" that enslaves people "in the deserts of the southwest in work camps" is a tyranical fantasy. This is why people teach and learn history, to prevent Hitler-like tyrants from gaining power.

Keep the acts of desperation coming, you can't steal free will. But you've still got this forum to precide over, don't you?

Don't you have any manners? You should introduce yourself as I have already asked you to do.

It's common courtesy! Don't you want to be courteous?

[Percival B. Perkins]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

To get around that baby-killer marine, and liberal sows arguments we can turn to Exodus 21 : 7 - 8 7And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do.
8If she please not her master, who hath betrothed her to himself, then shall he let her be redeemed: to sell her unto a strange nation he shall have no power, seeing he hath dealt deceitfully with her.

Sell her to a citizen of the unlawful nation of Mexico.