[James Hutchins]

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Are you piffleing kidding me you piffleing mormon, what on earth makes you think that it is an okay thing to torment kids. Where is the love that Jesus preached endlessly about?

Also, piffle you.

Friend, we are not mormons, we are Christians. How embarassing for you!

It is not tormenting kids, it is toughening them up. No one likes a sissie.
This is a reall good article.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Are you piffleing kidding me you piffleing mormon, what on earth makes you think that it is an okay thing to torment kids. Where is the love that Jesus preached endlessly about?

Also, piffle you.

Dear Godmocking Whore;

Thank you for taking the time out of your busy schedule of worshiping satan and spreading your legs for anyone with a dollar to post this hateful message. The Holy Bible tells us that we are actually Blessed by your persecution! Thanks for proving that we're right.

Matthew 5:10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
5:12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

Enjoy hell. I know that Jesus and I can't wait to watch you burn in hell for all eternity. Oh, how we'll laugh at you as you scream in agony! Shout Glory!!

YIC,

--Pastor Ezekiel

[Didymus Much]

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...Where is the love that Jesus preached endlessly about?...

Good question. Find an example of that "love" in the Bible, then we'll talk.

...Also, piffle you.

Nice to see you're ready for a rational, polite discourse on the subject. *sigh*

[lesbianwithaslan]

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"For God so loved the world." Christ. "But the greatest of these is love." Paul. "If I know not love, I am nothing." Paul again.
Oh yes, I'm totally a whore, I'm a virgin, for God's sake. You don't get to say that to me, just because I'm speaking out. Just shut it.

[inbred queer]

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"For God so loved the world." Christ. "But the greatest of these is love." Paul. "If I know not love, I am nothing." Paul again.
Oh yes, I'm totally a whore, I'm a virgin, for God's sake. You don't get to say that to me, just because I'm speaking out. Just shut it.

Hey, I'm totally siding with you and all, but you stole my spot! They gave up on replying to me.. I guess they've moved on ((

Also, some encouraging words of advice: they're not nice people. I like arguing with them, but if you're going to be offended at every insult they throw at you, it's useless. They've got no common sense or morals, and they'll give you "infractions" for just about anything (I've got loads). Also, check their wikipedia page (it's reeeally useful information).

I have a sneaking suspicion I'm going to get banned after this post (hopefully not). But, well, now is as good a time as any to say this; you guys actually seem like you have the potential to be really nice people. If what your wiki page says is true, then I wouldn't mind being friends with you all (despite the fact that I'm fifteen and you all are 25-60.. um). But yeah, I've got to memorize some elements for my science class and write a stupid poem for English, but if you're up to it, you can reply to what I've previously said and I'll reply back (I'd choose that over homework any day). Have a good day!

[[Looking back at the way this post starts and finishes, it seems I might be bipolar, shit, I'm awfully indecisive xD]]

[Didymus Much]

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"For God so loved the world." Christ...

Ah, yes, the constantly misunderstood (and misquoted) John 3:16. Let's at least look at the WHOLE verse, shall we?

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life"

See the bolded bit? That's a qualification, an "I'd love you if...".

Ask your parents what's the worst thing you could possibly do in their eyes (e.g. become a neonazi, become addicted to meth, vote republican, etc.) and if they'd still love you if you did those things. I bet they say "yes".

God won't. Is that love?

..."But the greatest of these is love." Paul...

1 Corinthians 13:13 (it'd be easier if you actually specify the verse you're referring to, but having dealt with the same cherry-picked bits of half-remembered fluff so many times before...)

"And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity."

The True Christians™ here insist on using only the King James version.

As this verse talks about charity, not love, it is irrelevant.

... "If I know not love, I am nothing." Paul again...

1 Corinthians 13:2, again badly translated, so irrelevant, as well.

"And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing."

Want to try to improve your 0-for-3 record?

...Oh yes, I'm totally a whore, I'm a virgin, for God's sake. You don't get to say that to me, just because I'm speaking out. Just shut it.

Says the pure-as-the-driven-slush skank who signed off her introductory post with "**** you".

Who the **** do you think you are to barge into a Baptist Church's webforum, start spewing non-Biblical bullshit, and tell them what to do (especially the senior pastor here)? Don't even think of trying the extremely tired "I've got rights to free speech" BS, because that's from the Constitution (which delineates the powers and responsibilities of the Government; as this is a privately-owned and -operated website, the Constitution does NOT apply here, you have NO rights). Enjoy your (probably very brief) stay.

[Missionary in Sweden]

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[QUOTE=Verezano Vargas;969552][QUOTE=DrZoidberg;969416]This'll be fun. So what in Creationism is it you're finding to be confusing?

I don't find it confusing. I find it unreasonable and unbelievable. There's no mention of evolution. Also, humans were definitely not the first species on earth. There's fossils and rocks and much more as evidence. It's not even a question anymore that the earth is 4.5 billion years old. It's practically impossible for humans to have been the first species in existence on earth. I don't understand how those who believe in creationism cannot believe that.

I can clear up this missunderstanding straight away. As you can see in Genesis God created the animals before humans. You just didn't read your Bible carefully enough. I hope it's all cleared up now and you can go onto being a good Christian?

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+1&version=KJ21

"And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.

23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.

25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them."

No, the problem with god and hell is that no one knows if they exist or not. The problem is that it's caused so much controversy, but we'll never have a end to the controversy because we can't know anything for sure until we die. There's two sides; in the end, one will end up being right, the other wrong. Although one seems more reasonable (atheists), the other claims to have a chance (though us atheists don't believe their claim). So, yeah.

But we have an authoritative source on the matter, the Bible. So I'm not sure what your problem is? Do you find it hard to read the Bible? Is homersexuality also a form of retardation?

Newton's Laws of Motion. Newton's Law of Universal Gravitation. Gravity. The earth is 4.6 billion years old. The cell theory. The earth has features that enable it to support life (duh). Forces. Mass and weight. These are all facts that science has proven. (Maybe I could send you my science textbook if you're that interested?)

If you love science so much, let's use logic and science to evaluate science.
Since it can be proven that scientiffic laws violate Biblical laws, we know that some scientiffic facts are wrong. Since we have the Bible we don't really need scientiffic textbooks, now do we?

[MitzaLizalor]

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(Originally Posted by Me)
OK. Name some.

(to which you replied)
Newton's Laws of Motion. Newton's Law of Universal Gravitation. Gravity. The earth is 4.6 billion years old. The cell theory. The earth has features that enable it to support life (duh). Forces. Mass and weight. These are all facts that science has proven. (Maybe I could send you my science textbook if you're that interested?)

Sir Isaac Newton was a Christian. He regarded his theological writing as his real work. As far as observing that objects fall when dropped, or that if they didn't hit something they'd keep falling well, that hardly qualifies as science. Obviously God knew that when He instructed us that although, sure, your object would continue falling forever but the environment where that would occur also emits things.

REVELATION 9:1-2 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit. And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit. KJV

Concerning Newton's speculation as to WHY that happens, unfortunately his theory (and he only presented it as a theory) was abrogated in 1916 by Einstein's general theory of relativity. Newton's "Law" does not hold and gravity can no longer be considered a force.

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Gravity just going "gravity" is not any sort of science. In response one might just as well say "egg".
The earth is 4.6 billion years old You have not presented any supporting evidence for your claim. The Bible on the other hand has withstood ALL assaults upon it's integrity for example, many heretics claim that Day One [Genesis 1] was about 10 or 12 billion years and that Day Two was 3 billion (or maybe 2 billion) and that Day Six must have been 1 million or could be 2 million or 100 thousand. Take your pick really. But whatever garbled misinformation you hear NONE of it can accommodate the fact that we have historical records linking Joseph (Mary's husband c.35BC) in an unbroken line to Adam. According to the evolutionist Adam would have been an an australopithecine adrift on some floating continent in 3,993,987BC the theory simply doesn't match the facts.
The cell theory. I have no idea what the relevance of this is. Are you suggesting that if there were no swine available to Jesus when He cast demons out of the Gerasene demoniac He would have sent them into a swarm of amœba? Perhaps. But there WERE swine available.
The earth has features that enable it to support life We know that. God made them. Read Genesis 2 for more information. If you mean that God created humans who breathe air and didn't stick us in a tank of arsenic cyanide therefore He doesn't exist I'm afraid you're rather missing the mark. IF The Bible said that "air" was made out of "plutonium" and then you produced a scientist who said "No It's Not — It's Air!" you might have a point. Well, you would have a point. But The Bible doesn't say that.

Philippians 4:19 But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus. KJV

Forces. Mass and weight. These are arbitrary values used in commerce etc. The Bible teaches us to always use correct weights and measures.

Proverbs 16:11 A just weight and balance are the LORD'S: all the weights of the bag are his work. KJV

You may be aware that weights are used to measure weight (on a weighing machine) and that mass is measured on a balance (which operates on the principle of force). The date for that verse incidentally is 950BC .

I should point out however that this thread is about sodomy.

[Redeemed Papist]

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"For God so loved the world." Christ. "But the greatest of these is love." Paul. "If I know not love, I am nothing." Paul again.
Oh yes, I'm totally a whore, I'm a virgin, for God's sake. You don't get to say that to me, just because I'm speaking out. Just shut it.

How about you read those "quotes" in context, bean flicker! Dragging a few vaguely remembered half passages from a Sunday school spent trying to look up other girls' skirts instead of receiving Jesus within you has not paid off for you, obviously.

[MitzaLizalor]

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"bisexual"

Say if a murderer is also a bank robber. Does the bank robbing cancel out the murder? No. Of course not.

The villain is a murderer AND a bank robber.

Similarly in the case of a sodomite. The fact of ALSO being a whoremonger in no way negates the sodomy. Exactly the same as if you were a sodomite and a murderer, or a sodomite and a bank robber. You're still a sodomite.

I didn't choose catastrophe..

The Bible is clear. You are an abomination. You ARE the catastrophe. Did your parents not tell you how to avoid hell? The Bible tells you. If you do not believe The Bible why seek to justify your existence according to Biblical standards? We know that Jesus will be returning quite soon. All events following the miraculous re-establishment of the State of Israel will be witnessed by a single generation.

GOD’S PROMISE

AMOS 9
9 For, lo, I will command, and I will sift the house of Israel among all nations, like as corn is sifted in a sieve, yet shall not the least grain fall upon the earth.
11 In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old:
14b-15 ..they shall build the waste cities, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and drink the wine thereof; they shall also make gardens, and eat the fruit of them. And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the LORD thy God.
KJV . look up

HOW IT WILL HAPPEN

ISAIAH 66
7 Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she was delivered of a man child.
8 Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day?
or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.
KJV . look up

WHEN DID IT HAPPEN?

May 14, 1948
The State of Israel was proclaimed in that single day. We know that The Israelites were dispersed among many heathen nations following The Crucifixion. Even prior that, due to their apostasy, they were not governing the land they lived in. Now over 24 centuries later, there they are. The idea of a Nation’s “birth” before the “travail” of labour beautifully describes exactly what happened in 1948 [the spontaneous birth] and what we see now [the travail].

JESUS SPEAKS DIRECTLY TO US

LUKE 21
31 So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand.
32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.
KJV . look up

It is we who see these things come to pass (not some other generation, that of Nero say, or of Kubla Khan). It is our generation that will not pass away, till all be fulfilled.

Just as the Israelites thought they knew better than God, educating their children in such a way as to reject Jesus, so today the secularist educates to deny The Inerrant Word of God. And just as the Israelites chose nit-picking over the meanings of words, resulting in catastrophe, so nit-pickers today descend into their own catastrophe of lurid pornographic display and the certainty of HELL FOREVER.

Jesus is the Answer. Come to Him today.

[inbred queer]

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I can clear up this missunderstanding straight away. As you can see in Genesis God created the animals before humans. You just didn't read your Bible carefully enough. I hope it's all cleared up now and you can go onto being a good Christian?

Nope. Animals definitely were not the first species on earth. Bacteria was. And then fish. And then from there on, we gradually evolved into humans. God didn't put anything on earth.

But we have an authoritative source on the matter, the Bible. So I'm not sure what your problem is? Do you find it hard to read the Bible? Is homosexuality also a form of retardation?

Besides a book that says god made the book, you have no proof of god or that god made the book. If I have a comic book, and in the book it says that superman is read, does that mean superman is real? No, it doesn't. Because it is a book. No, homosexuality is not retardation. It's just a sexual preference. Jeez.

If you love science so much, let's use logic and science to evaluate science. Since it can be proven that scientiffic laws violate Biblical laws, we know that some scientiffic facts are wrong. Since we have the Bible we don't really need scientiffic textbooks, now do we?

Hey, you spelled "scientific" wrong. Three times.
No, in using logic, you'd rule scientific laws to come before and be truer than biblical laws, because scientific laws have been proven -have PROOF- despite whether or not the violate biblical laws. Scientific laws aren't wrong, because they're laws. And yes, you sure as hell do need science text books. You're obviously very confused and misinformed about this whole science thing. Maybe you should put down the bible for a bit and wake up to the real world - this is the twentieth century, bud. We know stuff.

Say if a murderer is also a bank robber. Does the bank robbing cancel out the murder? No. Of course not.

The villain is a murderer AND a bank robber.

Sure. But then when they go to prison for robbing a bank and murdering someone, the years they have to stay in there will be added together. Just like how I like women, and I like men. I'm not straight and gay, I'm just bisexual.

The Bible is clear. You are an abomination. You ARE the catastrophe. Did your parents not tell you how to avoid hell? The Bible tells you. If you do not believe The Bible why seek to justify your existence according to Biblical standards? We know that Jesus will be returning quite soon. All events following the miraculous re-establishment of the State of Israel will be witnessed by a single generation.

Alright, when Jesus doesn't return "soon", I'll be laughing in all of your faces. To me, the bible means nothing. It's just a book that a bunch of people choose to worship. I don't believe a single thing they say in it - simply because it's unreasonable to me. It doesn't make sense, and there's many other reasons that do make sense that would explain things better than religion ever could. No, my parents never told me how to avoid hell. They told me not to rob banks, not to murder people, not to steal, not to lie, etc - but they did it because that's what any person with any sense of morals at all should do. Not because you'd have consequences if you do do those things, but because it's not something a good person would do. And my parents don't believe that not being straight makes you a bad person. So they didn't tell me I shouldn't be. They're not going to scold me for it, because it's just a sexual preference. That's all.

Jesus is the Answer. Come to Him today.

You're starting to sound like you're reading the script for a Christian advert. This is what people are talking about when they say the phrase "shoving religion down your throat". Right there.

[Redeemed Papist]

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You're starting to sound like you're reading the script for a Christian advert. This is what people are talking about when they say the phrase "shoving religion down your throat". Right there.

I rest my case.

[inbred queer]

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I rest my case.

A picture? Wow, that makes everything true.

I could search up "LGBT quotes" on google images right now and post every single one of them, does that make them true? Do you want me to give it a shot? No? Alright.

You rest no case.

[Bobby-Joe]

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A picture? Wow, that makes everything true.

I could search up "LGBT quotes" on google images right now and post every single one of them, does that make them true? Do you want me to give it a shot? No? Alright.

You rest no case.

Apples an oranges friend. LGBT quotes are just a bunch a random statements torn randomly out of context from old books just to support your position. This is nothing like quoting scripture to prove to people their views are evil and they need to change them now.

[Walter Harris]

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Gays are intolerant and bigoted about what Christianity stands for.

They choose to mock God and expect a free pass card?