[Ronaldo Cristiano]

Re: Hello, from godless spain!

Well, you did not tell me from which part of Godless North Africa are you from, so it is difficult to find yo a Church.

All I know is you have a lot of Iglesias: Julio and Enrique being the most famous Iglesias.


Please stay away from the Iglesia de Iniesta, no matter if he has won you a world cup, going there is Icon adoration and you will be going to Hell.


I think with the Immanuel Baptist Church you should be fine, although they seem a bunch of leftist liberals compared to Landover. Nevertheless, be prepared to tithe.

I got an infraction?!? Trying to be of help?!? Wow.
Anyway, thank you brother González. It is a pity you did lost your touch with your ancestors of Spain, but thank you very much for your kind words. I will search for these places. Do you know if there is churches like these in south of European Spain? Thank you, and God bless you.

[Brother Gonzalez]

Re: Hello, from godless spain!

I got an infraction?!? Trying to be of help?!? Wow.
Anyway, thank you brother González. It is a pity you did lost your touch with your ancestors of Spain, but thank you very much for your kind words. I will search for these places. Do you know if there is churches like these in south of European Spain? Thank you, and God bless you.

I guess what is best for you is to cross the ocean and come to help to build the big border wall. That way you'll be closer to the promised Land and you will find some Churches.


You will have to learn the language, messican. It is very similar to Castilian, but with a lot of nonsense words here and there, a lot of "x" and "ch".

[Ronaldo Cristiano]

Re: Hello, from godless spain!

I guess what is best for you is to cross the ocean and come to help to build the big border wall. That way you'll be closer to the promised Land and you will find some Churches.


You will have to learn the language, messican. It is very similar to Castilian, but with a lot of nonsense words here and there, a lot of "x" and "ch".

Thank you brother, I find the mexicans hard too. Very hard sometimes. I will think about this, and pray hard.


(And thank you for the other extra infraction. I realise it is for the good, that I learn! Thanks again, brother. )


Also, what are the santuary towns Mr. Hitchin mentions. Are they godly places, obviously? I would like to learn more.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Hello, from godless spain!

I wonder if you're too shy to share your testimony, even when asked in sincerity.

[Ronaldo Cristiano]

Re: Hello, from godless spain!

I wonder if you're too shy to share your testimony, even when asked in sincerity.

A little, yes.


I was not educated as very christian. My family are more or less, 'only weddings and comuniones' catholics, and my father is more of atheist.


I had a dream. About god. I work with a Witness Jehovah and she said me I should find a church. (Is this wrong?)


And here I am.

[Ronaldo Cristiano]

Re: Hello, from godless spain!

A cautious welcome to you. Can you please read the instructions at the top of the page and tell what church you go to, how you found Jesus, and which Bible verse you find most inspiring.

I have not got a favorite verse. I like a lot of bible verse. This one, for example:


Reading 1, Romans 9:1-5


1 This is the truth and I am speaking in Christ, without pretence, as my conscience testifies for me in the Holy Spirit;
2 there is great sorrow and unremitting agony in my heart:
3 I could pray that I myself might be accursed and cut off from Christ, if this could benefit the brothers who are my own flesh and blood.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Hello, from godless spain!

Jehovah's Witnesses and Roman Catholics are not Christians. Nothing they advise should be considered seriously because whatever they tell you is intended to lead you astray.

Sometimes they will offer what seems like genuine advice. But will be adjusted slightly, from time to time, introducing false ideas leading to a false understanding of the world and our place in it. After all, if you're prepared to listen to someone else's opinion and act according to what they tell you without checking it out why not just make up something for yourself and follow that? I believe that's called "post-modernism" which holds that everything is equally valid.

God does not agree.

MATTHEW 7 .KJV . whole chapter
13 [Jesus speaking] Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

[Ronaldo Cristiano]

Re: Hello, from godless spain!

Jehovah's Witnesses and Roman Catholics are not Christians. Nothing they advise should be considered seriously because whatever they tell you is intended to lead you astray.

Sometimes they will offer what seems like genuine advice. But will be adjusted slightly, from time to time, introducing false ideas leading to a false understanding of the world and our place in it. After all, if you're prepared to listen to someone else's opinion and act according to what they tell you without checking it out why not just make up something for yourself and follow that? I believe that's called "post-modernism" which holds that everything is equally valid.

God does not agree.

MATTHEW 7 .KJV . whole chapter
13 [Jesus speaking] Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

But they say they believe in christ, no? And anyway, the jehovah people are not influence me much. They believe some crazy things. Like 140.000 are going to saved and blood transfussion is wrong and things that are not logical. I don't think they have the right vision of christ. Like my family. They're just lazy. I also think post-modernism is also lazy. And not a religion.


Thank you for aslo teach me a new word. 'Astray'. I searched it in google, cos I thought it was ahstray and thought...eh? Thank you sister, for your opinions.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Hello, from godless spain!

But they say they believe in christ, no?

They say a lot of things, but none of them are true.

[Ronaldo Cristiano]

Re: Hello, from godless spain!

They say a lot of things, but none of them are true.

I think I undertand. Sorry.

[Basilissa]

Re: Hello, from godless spain!

But they say they believe in christ, no? And anyway, the jehovah people are not influence me much. They believe some crazy things. Like 140.000 are going to saved

I know, right? So dumb! They missed the part where it says the 144,000 are just the Saved Jews:

Revelation 7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

The following verses recite the numbers from each tribe (spoiler: it's 12,000 Jews for each tribe; Revelation 7:5-8), and after that are mentioned countless numbers of Saved people who were not born as Jews:

Revelation 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

and blood transfussion is wrong and things that are not logical.

Faith healing is the way to go - then you don't need transfusion:

James 5:14-16
14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:
15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.
16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

I don't think they have the right vision of christ. Like my family. They're just lazy.

Aren't all Messicans lazy, dear?

I also think post-modernism is also lazy. And not a religion.

I hope so!

[Jim C. Lombardo]

Re: Hello, from godless spain!

I should find a church. (Is this wrong?)


And here I am.

Yes. This is wrong.


I'm sorry Ronaldo, but I can't help but notice you look a little bit like a pervert, and I just wouldn't feel comfortable with someone like you sitting among our pews. Lest of all, a Jehovah, who are known to prey on unsuspecting folk at their doorsteps. How do I say it best; you have a wolfish look about you that just preening on the precipice of a bestial assault on our Christian Women.

And here you are. Perhaps it would be kinder, safer to stay home and worship our Savior from the confines of a detention cell away from civilized folk.

[Ronaldo Cristiano]

Re: Hello, from godless spain!

Yes. This is wrong.


I'm sorry Ronaldo, but I can't help but notice you look a little bit like a pervert, and I just wouldn't feel comfortable with someone like you sitting among our pews. Lest of all, a Jehovah, who are known to prey on unsuspecting folk at their doorsteps. How do I say it best; you have a wolfish look about you that just preening on the precipice of a bestial assault on our Christian Women.

And here you are. Perhaps it would be kinder, safer to stay home and worship our Savior from the confines of a detention cell away from civilized folk.

Very extreme, no? You cant possibly jugde a person only from a photography!!

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Hello, from godless spain!

I have not got a favorite verse. I like a lot of bible verse. This one, for example:


Reading 1, Romans 9:1-5

Romans 9 is a great passage, in which Paul sets out the Christian message very clearly for us. I noticed you're using one of the Jerusalem Bibles which may be a nice flowing style but they don't always get the message right so we prefer the King James translation which I'll just put here:

ROMANS 9 .KJV . look up
1 I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost,
2 That I have great heaviness and continual sorrow in my heart.
3 For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:

You linked to a piece from the catholic indoctrination site about truth.

Truth
Catholic Online • Catholic Encyclopedia

I. ONTOLOGICAL TRUTH
Every existing thing is true [I stopped reading here]

Lies exist but lies are not true. Popes lie all the time.









When people start going on about ontological arguments we know they have departed from The Truth which Jesus explains as follows:

MATTHEW 18 .KJV . look up
3 [Jesus speaking] Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Now compare this from verbose windbag William Lane Craig:

Now in his version of the argument, Plantinga conceives of God as a being which is "maximally excellent" in every possible world. Plantinga takes maximal excellence to include such properties as omniscience, omnipotence, and moral perfection. A being which has maximal excellence in every possible world would have what Plantinga calls "maximal greatness." So Plantinga argues:

1. It is possible that a maximally great being exists.

2. If it is possible that a maximally great being exists, then a maximally great being exists in some possible world.

3. If a maximally great being exists in some possible world, then it exists in every possible world.

4. If a maximally great being exists in every possible world, then it exists in the actual world.

5. If a maximally great being exists in the actual world, then a maximally great being exists.

6. Therefore, a maximally great being exists.

What child could understand that? Even professors glaze over when he gets started but you can read more HERE if you want to.









Later on Paul in his letter to the Galatians points out that some parts of the Israelite tradition is allegorical.

GALATIANS 4 .KJV . look up
22-23 It is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman. But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
25-26 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

Just because something is an allegory does not mean that it cannot also be a real event. After all, if Abraham did not really have children Paul would not exist and if Paul did not exist who wrote his epistles? Children understand allegories quite well. Many children's stories are allegories and they are easy to understand so I'd recommend staying away from philosophical claptrap artists, although I can demonstrate more if you want me to, and stay away from catholic nonsense too.

Those are paths to HELL FOREVER.

[Ronaldo Cristiano]

Re: Hello, from godless spain!

Romans 9 is a great passage, in which Paul sets out the Christian message very clearly for us. I noticed you're using one of the Jerusalem Bibles which may be a nice flowing style but they don't always get the message right so we prefer the King James translation which I'll just put here:

ROMANS 9 .KJV . look up
1 I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost,
2 That I have great heaviness and continual sorrow in my heart.
3 For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:

You linked to a piece from the catholic indoctrination site about truth.

Lies exist but lies are not true. Popes lie all the time.









When people start going on about ontological arguments we know they have departed from The Truth which Jesus explains as follows:

MATTHEW 18 .KJV . look up
3 [Jesus speaking] Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Now compare this from verbose windbag William Lane Craig:

What child could understand that? Even professors glaze over when he gets started but you can read more HERE if you want to.









Later on Paul in his letter to the Galatians points out that some parts of the Israelite tradition is allegorical.

GALATIANS 4 .KJV . look up
22-23 It is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman. But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
25-26 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

Just because something is an allegory does not mean that it cannot also be a real event. After all, if Abraham did not really have children Paul would not exist and if Paul did not exist who wrote his epistles? Children understand allegories quite well. Many children's stories are allegories and they are easy to understand so I'd recommend staying away from philosophical claptrap artists, although I can demonstrate more if you want me to, and stay away from catholic nonsense too.

Those are paths to HELL FOREVER.

Thank you sister, although it doesn't really matter which bibles we use. I mean the message is the same. The Word of God can't change of bible to bible. But thank you for the advice.