[Didymus Much]

Re: READ THIS BEFORE YOU FLAME US!

...somehow stumbled onto here where I see a "subtle" disliking for minorities. Specifically, people of color.

How so? Colour is no barrier to True Christian(tm) status.

[Lolcatzt]

Re: READ THIS BEFORE YOU FLAME US!

So you've just discovered this site and you're about to type up a flame accusing us of being "fringe" or "extremist", or asking if we're serious about what we say. Fine. but read this first:

We are just another group of republicans, with just another republican website with just another republican forum.

The difference is that we say exactly what we mean. Other conservative groups try to look "centrist" and "politically correct". A lot of republicans say "I was just joking" when someone gets all politically correct on them. (They weren't, they just know how to make PC commies shut up.) There is no self-censorship in Landover Baptist Church. The moderators in this forum believe in freedom of speech (for republicans), and when they do edit something they at least let people know that they did. This is different from other forums.

And that is where the differences between us and other republicans END.

So you want to troll us? Why don't you go troll the hundreds of millions of other people who agree with us?

Instead of harassing us for speaking honestly, why don't you talk to the hundreds of millions of other people who agree with us but are more secretive/less honest about their opinions?

The number of Americans who are evangelical, charismatic or conservative Christians now exceeds 100 million. That's 100,000,000.

"Protestant mega-churches [such as Landover Baptist] are spreading exponentially. There are now 850 in America. They each have congregations of more than 2,000 and a combined total of 3 million. John Vaughan, whose organisation Church Growth Today monitors and encourages their expansion, says a new mega-church appears in America every four days." - The Guardian, UK

Most Americans believe the nation's founders wrote Christianity into the Constitution, and people are less likely to say freedom to worship covers religious groups they consider extreme, a poll out today finds....55% believe...that the Constitution establishes a Christian nation.

...only 56% agree that freedom of religion applies to all groups "regardless of how extreme their beliefs are....49% said the First Amendment "goes too far in the rights it guarantees." - USA Today article

A new poll shows the Republican Party agrees with us on a wide variety of issues:

Lots of Americans (including false-Americans, like blue-staters and brown people) agree with us:

• 18% believe that the earth is the center of the universe. 3% said "no opinion." Gallup (1999)
• 10% believe that environmentalists intentionally caused the oil spill
• A 2004 study showed that 51% of Americans believe in Creationism
• 18% of Americans believe Obama is a Muslim. (Pew Research Center)
• 80% of Americans believe the US government is lying about whatever happened at Roswell
  

George W Bush heard the voice of God on a regular basis:

"God told me to strike at al Qaida and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East..."

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=310788&contrassID=2&subContrass ID=1&sbSubContrassID=0&listSrc=Y

But Bush is a secular liberal compared to our future President!

We believe that the destruction of New Orleans was an act of God, and so does the President: 'Events aren't moved by blind change and chance [but by] the hand of a just and faithful God.' -George W Bush

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0302/06/se.01.html

We believe that non-Christians will burn in hell forever, and so does the president: "In 1993, just before running for governor of Texas, Mr. Bush told a Jewish reporter that only believers in Jesus go to heaven."

http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0316-05.htm

We believe that gays are the #1 threat to civilization, and so does Pat Robertson, owner of the 3rd largest cable media empire and head of the 1.7 million member Christian Coalition, the most powerful lobbying group in the United States.

"I have known few homosexuals who did not practice their tendencies. Such people are sinning against God and will lead to the ultimate destruction of the family and our nation. I am unalterably opposed to such things, and will do everything I can to restrict the freedom of these people..." --Pat Robertson

We were planning to televise Armageddon, but another conservative Christian did it first:

"Armageddon may or may not be televised. But if Dr. Mike Evans has his way, his newly launched Evangelical Israel Broadcasting Network will be broadcasting directly from the scene. Dr. Evans, who heads the Jerusalem Prayer Team, believes war with Iraq could be a "dress rehearsal for Armageddon" -- the fulfillment of biblical prophecy... Dr. Evans' reading of the Bible may help explain why many conservative Christian fundamentalists are supporting President Bush..."

http://www.workingforchange.com/printitem.cfm?itemid=14656

Bush has nominated W. David Hager to the powerful Food and Drug Administration's panel on women's health policy. Hager believes women should turn to the Bible and Christ for healing, just like us.

General William Boykin, appointed to a senior Defense Department post, has repeatedly explained that America's enemy is not terrorists, but "a spiritual enemy ... called Satan." The enemy will only be defeated, according to General Boykin, "if we come against them in the name of Jesus."

Why we love George:

"Bush is very much into the apocalyptic and messianic thinking of militant Christian evangelicals. He seems to buy into the worldview that there is a giant struggle between good and evil culminating in a final confrontation. People with that kind of a worldview often take risks that are inappropriate and scary [to secular sinners] because they see it as carrying out God's will."

-- Chip Berlet, senior analyst for Political Research Associates

Marvin Olasky -- a former Maoist who is now a Christian Reconstructionist -- coined the phrase "compassionate conservatism," and was hired by the Bush campaign in 2000 to serve as their top consultant on welfare. Olasky's entire career has been financed by Howard Ahmanson, the California multimillionaire who has said publicly that his life's goal is "to integrate Biblical law into all our lives." Ahmanson is the main force behind the schism in the Episcopalian church. Also, he is the most important advocate of the Intelligent Design movement, also known as creationism.

"Bush had picked Jack Hayford, a California Charismatic, to give the benediction at the Fifty-fourth Inaugural Prayer Service at the National Cathedral. Involved in the founding of the Promise Keepers men's revival group, Hayford was a supporter of Christian Reconstruction or Dominionism.

Anthony T. Evans of Dallas, who likewise preached a workdview based on the Bible, was a speaker at the pre-inaugural Washington Prayer Luncheon in January, 2001 ...

What Hayford and Evans had in common, other preachers said, was a shared adherence to 'Kingdom Now' or Dominionist theology. Loosely put, it called for seizure of eathly power by 'the people of God' as the only way by which the world could be rescued. Prayer and evangelism were not enough: a Christian-led social reformation was necessary because Christ would not return to earth until a revised Church has set the scene. A president convinced that God was speaking to him ... might through Dominionism start to view himself as an agent called by the Almighty to restore the earth to Godly control. "

-- Kevin Philips_American Dynasty_ Chapter 7

We believe George is a deity and he does too: "President George W. Bush stood before a cheering crowd at a Dallas Christian youth center last week...Behind Bush were two banners. 'King of Kings', proclaimed one. 'Lord of Lords', said the other." Observer, November 2, 2003

We are fighting a war with science, and so are our friends in the White House:

"More than 4,000 [heathen] scientists, including 48 Nobel laureates, have joined a call for "restoration of scientific integrity in federal policymaking," charging that the Bush administration is packing scientific advisory panels with ideologues and imposing controls on collaboration with foreign researchers, a scientists' group said yesterday." - Washington Post, July 9, 2004

We know that a John Kerry victory would have resulted in the banning of the Bible, and the Republican Party knows as well:

"The Republican Party acknowledged yesterday sending mass mailings...warning that "liberals" seek to ban the Bible." -New York Times, September 23, 2004

[Note: the NYT says "warn" not "claim" because even the liberalmedia NYT admits Kerry planned to ban the Bible!]



It would have also resulted in swarthy, brown men holding hands, which is too hideous to even think about

We believe that 9/11 was God's punishment for New York's sinfulness, and that Jews and feminists are evil and so do the millions of people who watch the 700 club:

"I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way - all of them who have tried to secularize America - I point the finger in their face and say 'you helped this happen'."
Thursday, Sept. 13, 2001" -- Rev. Jerry Falwell, in an appearance on Pat Robertson's The 700 Club *

"The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians." -- Pat Robertson, fundraising letter, 1992

"With all due respect to those dear people, my friend, God Almighty does not hear the prayer of a Jew." --Bailey Smith, a founding father of Robertson's Christian Coalition at a Religious Roundtable briefing in Dallas, June 26, 1994

We believe that gays should be executed like the nazis were, and the millions of people who watch Dr. Laura agree:

"I want to coin a phrase here, and I don't mind help. What would be the communication version of "ethnic cleansing?" Because that's what in particular the homosexual activists try to do." --Dr. Laura Schlessinger, August 11, 1999

We believe that Religious states, such as those in the middle east, aren't such a bad idea, and the Supreme Court Agrees:

"The 'wall of separation between church and state' is a metaphor based on bad history...It should be frankly and explicitly abandoned."-- Supreme Court Judge William Rehnquist

We agree wholeheartedly with Republican strategist Randall Terry: "I want you to just let a wave of intolerance wash over you. I want you to let a wave of hatred wash over you. Yes, hate is good.... Our goal is a Christian nation. We have a Biblical duty, we are called by God, to conquer this country. We don't want equal time. We don't want pluralism." -- Randall Terry, quoted in The News-Sentinel, Fort Wayne, Indiana, August 16, 1993

We believe that deceiving the American voters is a good thing, and so does Republican strategist Ralph Reed:

"It's like guerrilla warfare. If you reveal your location, all it does is allow your opponent to improve his artillery bearings. It's better to move quietly, with stealth, under cover of night. You've got two choices: You can wear cammies and shimmy along on your belly, or you can put on a red coat and stand up for everyone to see. It comes down to whether you want to be the British army in the Revolutionary War or the Viet Cong. History tells us which tactic was more effective." -- Ralph Reed, Los Angeles Times, March 22, 1992

We believe that the Crusades were a wonderful time in history and we support conversion by the sword. So do the millions who watch Ann Coulter on TV, buy her books and read her newspaper columns:

"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity...We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war." -- Ann Coulter, This is War column, Sept. 13, 2001

We want to turn the constitution into the toilet paper it deserves to be, and the millions of readers of the Washington Times agree:

"We are approaching a time when Christians, especially, may have to declare the social contract between Enlightenment rationalists and Biblical believers - which formed the basis of the constitution written at our nation's founding - null and void." --Cal Thomas, Washington Times, 1996-OCT-23

We believe that women shouldn't vote, and the people of Kansas agree:

"I'm an old-fashioned woman. Men should take care of women, and if men were taking care of women (today) we wouldn't have to vote."-- State Sen. Kay O'Connor, Kansas Republican, September 28, 2001, Kansas City Star

We agree with Secretary of State (that's the 3rd most powerful guy in the nation):

"Unique among the nations, America recognized the source of our character as being godly and eternal, not being civic and temporal. And because we have understood that our source is eternal, America has been different. We have no king but Jesus." -- John Ashcroft, Commencement address given on May 8, 1999, upon receiving an honorary degree at ultra-right-wing and ultra-fundamentalist Bob Jones University, also known for its anti-negro segregationist policies

We believe that only a total monopoly on power is acceptable, and not even the slightest amount of dissent is tolerable, and the people of Oklahoma agree:

"Get the few liberals out. If you don't do it, it ain't gonna be done," Sen. James Inhofe, R-Oklahoma, told the crowd at the Washington Convention Center. "You will be doing the Lord's work, and he will richly bless you for it." -- Christian Coalition's Road to Victory Conference, 2002, Washington D.C.

We want to burn synogogues, censor everything, and ban immoral speech. We're not the only ones:

"When the Christian majority takes over this country, there will be no satanic churches, no more free distribution of pornography, no more talk of rights for homosexuals. After the Christian majority takes control, pluralism will be seen as immoral and evil and the state will not permit anybody the right to practice evil."
--Gary Potter, president of Catholics for Christian Political Action

"The Christian community has a golden opportunity to train an army of dedicated teachers who can invade the public school classrooms and use them to influence the nation for Christ." --D. James Kennedy, "Education: Public Problems and Private Solutions," Coral Ridge Ministries, 1993

* In case you think that Pat Robertson was "just kidding" here's a partial transcript of comments from the Thursday, September 13, 2001 edition of the '700 Club.'

By the way, America is not a Democracy, it is not even a Republic, it is a MONARCHY and its King and Queen are the founders of our good friend, the Unification Church:

"WASHINGTON As a shining symbol of democracy, the United States capital is not ordinarily a place where coronations occur. So news that the Reverend Sun Myung Moon, the eccentric and exceedingly wealthy Korean-born businessman, donned a crown in a Senate office building and declared himself the Messiah while members of Congress watched is causing something of an uproar...

[A] congressman from Illinois, Danny Davis, wore white gloves and carried a pillow holding one of two ornate gold crowns that were placed on the heads of Moon and his wife, Hak Ja Han Moon, at the ceremony, which took place March 23...

Davis, for the record, says he held the wife's crown and was "a bit surprised" by Moon's Messiah remarks, which were delivered in Korean but accompanied by a written translation. In them, he said emperors, kings and presidents had "declared to all heaven and earth that Reverend Sun Myung Moon is none other than humanity's Savior, Messiah, Returning Lord and True Parent."

...At 84, Moon cuts a curious figure in Washington, where he mingles with the city's elite by dint of his dual roles as religious leader and media mogul. He owns The Washington Times, which bills itself as a conservative alternative to The Washington Post, as well as United Press International, the wire service. He calls himself "Father" and has drawn notoriety for officiating at mass weddings[where he chooses who marries who at random]. As a conservative, he claims close ties to President George W. Bush and the Republican Party." - The New York Times

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/24/politics/24moon.html?ex=1403496000&en=e7dfae485407b03f&ei=5007&partner=USERLAND

The future is bright. DEAL WITH IT.

Do you get the point yet? We are not fringe. YOU ARE FRINGE. We are not extreme. YOU ARE EXTREME. We are not "just kidding".

DEAL WITH IT.

You just want to make people who actually have minds and aren't brainwashed by this religious propaganda feel bad about themselves. I'm not a Republican or anything else. I am my own person, who would rather not have to follow rules of one or another group because I just want to be supportive, or anything else.

[HomosexualsAreNotOkay]

Re: READ THIS BEFORE YOU FLAME US!

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[Didymus Much]

Re: READ THIS BEFORE YOU FLAME US!

nope

Awww, still futilely trying to offend the True Christians™? Impossible.

Psalm 119:165 "Great peace have they which love thy law:
And nothing shall offend them."

[moon123]

Re: READ THIS BEFORE YOU FLAME US!

Christianity is a human religion of people who deceive mankind [SCAT IMAGERY REMOVED BY MODERATOR]
The denial of atheism and the theory of evolution [GAY PORNOGRAPHY REMOVED BY MODERATOR]
Challenge all atheists [I DIDN'T KNOW DAWIKINS DID THIS KIND OF PORN!]
Evidence of the ridiculousness of Islam.
[DISGUSTING PORNOGRAPHY FEATURING THE KORAN USED AS TOILET PAPER REMOVED BY MODERATOR]

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: READ THIS BEFORE YOU FLAME US!

You just want to make people who actually have minds and aren't brainwashed by this religious propaganda feel bad about themselves.

Who gave you that mind, son?

It was God, wasn't it?

Bless you.

Christianity is a human religion of people who deceive mankind [SCAT IMAGERY REMOVED BY MODERATOR]
The denial of atheism and the theory of evolution [GAY PORNOGRAPHY REMOVED BY MODERATOR]
Challenge all atheists [I DIDN'T KNOW DAWIKINS DID THIS KIND OF PORN!]
Evidence of the ridiculousness of Islam.
[DISGUSTING PORNOGRAPHY FEATURING THE KORAN USED AS TOILET PAPER REMOVED BY MODERATOR]

Your use of the Personal Messaging facility is bringiong you close to being banned.

Requesting homosexual "encounters" is inappropriate - this site is not an alternative to "Grinder" - it is dedicated to, and for the benefit of, those who accept Jesus.

Thank you.

[GayChristian]

Re: READ THIS BEFORE YOU FLAME US!

Im gay and using the term "flaming" is gay too

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: READ THIS BEFORE YOU FLAME US!

Im gay and using the term "flaming" is gay too

There is no such thing as a "gay" Christian.

HEBREWS 10 .KJV . context
23a Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering;
25a Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another:
25b And so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
26. For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

Notice verse 26? (I've highlighted it for you.) How do you think sin should be determined, so as to not wilfully engage in it?

[Diesel Stanford]

Re: READ THIS BEFORE YOU FLAME US!

Im gay and using the term "flaming" is gay too

Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord God: and not that he should return from his ways, and live? (Ezekiel 18:23)

Lover and friend hast thou put far from me, and mine acquaintance into darkness. (Psalm 88:18)

If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. (1st John 1:8)


Why do you continue to wander around in the dark? Why don't you let Jesus cleanse you, my friend?

[kevinspencer]

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Thanks for explaining your opinions! Each of them is respected and appreciated!

[MitzaLizalor]

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[Kyle Hancock]

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Do you seriously think ANY troll is going to give a crap about this?

[Basilissa]

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Do you seriously think ANY troll is going to give a crap about this?

Well, you gave a crap enough to register on this forum and post this comment, didn't you?

[James Hutchins]

Re: READ THIS BEFORE YOU FLAME US!

Do you seriously think ANY troll is going to give a crap about this?

Many very sad people, destined for an eternity in Hell, spend all their free time 'trolling' us. They cut themselves with razor blades, they call themselves 'liberals' and demoncrats. The shoot up with the drugs. They have homosexual relations.

What is your sorry excuse? I know, it is the old 'mommy still breast feeds me but she is all dried up' story! God is a well that never runs dry.

[Kyle Hancock]

Re: READ THIS BEFORE YOU FLAME US!

Well, you gave a crap enough to register on this forum and post this comment, didn't you?

Many very sad people, destined for an eternity in Hell, spend all their free time 'trolling' us. They cut themselves with razor blades, they call themselves 'liberals' and demoncrats. The shoot up with the drugs. They have homosexual relations.

What is your sorry excuse? I know, it is the old 'mommy still breast feeds me but she is all dried up' story! God is a well that never runs dry.

Yes, just to get my opinion of this "Fundamentalist" shtick y'all have going on... It's appalling, it's terrible, it's shocking! Come on! Jesus Christ Himself said that you gotta love your friends: http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/...-Thy-Neighbor/. I even made it the King James Version, the one your "attached" to. This forum had enough hate on it to send everyone, EVERYONE, to the fiery pits of Hell! Troll don't care if they offend anyone, I'm here to set the facts straight! Jesus did not intend his religion to be This way! This talk about forcing your daughter to be raped, xenophobia, and other nasty ways is truly appalling, and y'all are so in denial that y'all need serious help. IT'S Y'ALL FAULT THAT ATHEISTS ARE BEING PUSHED AWAY! Y'all can't even take constructive criticism. It's like y'all are only doing this for y'alls benefits. Am I wrong? Please disprove me!