Hello, I've come to pee on your parade, from a non beliving swede

[Turducken the Eskimo]

Hello everyone,

Have seen allot of your hate about us in your forums and I feel that should inform you that allot of the information written is currently wrong, not trying to change your mind but just informing you.

Ive also come with some questions regarding your thoughts about certain things.. but Ill take those later..

My name is Tadeni Prutten!
Please take care of me!

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Hello, from a non beliving swede

Tell us what church you go to and what your favorite Bible verse is and how you came to find Jesus.

[Turducken the Eskimo]

Re: Hello, from a non beliving swede

Tell us what church you go to and what your favorite Bible verse is and how you came to find Jesus.

Hello, I don't go to church is I am currently a non beliver. i don't belive in a higher force like god.
And thus has not read the bible..

//Tadeni

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Hello, from a non beliving swede

Hello, and welcome to our friendly forums!

Do you mind if I ask, are you a non believer because of some trauma in your childhood that made you mad at God, or were you simply not raised in a faithful family?

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Hello, from a non beliving swede

Hello, I don't go to church is I am currently a non beliver. i don't belive in a higher force like god.
And thus has not read the bible..

So how do you think we are wrong about Jesus?

[Missionary in Sweden]

Re: Hello, from a non beliving swede

Hello everyone,

Have seen allot of your hate about us in your forums and I feel that should inform you that allot of the information written is currently wrong, not trying to change your mind but just informing you.

Ive also come with some questions regarding your thoughts about certain things.. but Ill take those later..

My name is Tadeni Prutten!
Please take care of me!

Hello Mr Prutten

It's not our hate. It's God's hate. We're just following God's word.

Praise the Lord

[Turducken the Eskimo]

Re: Hello, from a non beliving swede

Hello, and welcome to our friendly forums!

Do you mind if I ask, are you a non believer because of some trauma in your childhood that made you mad at God, or were you simply not raised in a faithful family?

Hello, and thank you..

My father believes in god, also does my mother but in a different view than you would. She sees God as a spirit who cannot hate anyone, and does not spread his word via a messenger like Jesus.

Regarding me, I don't believe in any higher force simply because I don't find it logical. I am an Asperger with an Specialization in socialism and logic. So if I cannot see an explanation for somethings I have problems believing it.

So how do you think we are wrong about Jesus?

I don't really think you are wrong, you have your opinion and I respect that. But I am having a hard time seeing a GOD such as yours would have thoughts like hate against something like homosexuals or even big countries.

Hello Mr Prutten

It's not our hate. It's God's hate. We're just following God's word.

Praise the Lord

Ok, but it becomes your hate if you follows his hate, dose it not?
In in the end you hate and wish the terminations of that you hate, like homosexuals?

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Hello, from a non beliving swede

Hello, and thank you..

My pleasure!

My father believes in god, also does my mother but in a different view than you would. She sees God as a spirit who cannot hate anyone, and does not spread his word via a messenger like Jesus.

Regarding me, I don't believe in any higher force simply because I don't find it logical. I am an Asperger with an Specialization in socialism and logic. So if I cannot see an explanation for somethings I have problems believing it.

I'm so sorry to hear that. I see you've been raised as an experiment to your liberal parents. Not satisfied with refusing to teach the Law of the LORD as commanded ( Deuteronomy 11:18-21) they took it one step further and decided to go for the fashionable aspie trend.

I don't really think you are wrong, you have your opinion and I respect that. But I am having a hard time seeing a GOD such as yours would have thoughts like hate against something like homosexuals or even big countries.

It's not so complicated. The LORD is righteous (that means perfect), and cannot stand unrighteousness (that means that which is not perfect, like homos). It's all right there in the Holy Bible, friend.

Ok, but it becomes your hate if you follows his hate, dose it not?
In in the end you hate and wish the terminations of that you hate, like homosexuals?

That's silly. Why would we hate homosexuals? Some of the nicest people can be led astray into the homosexual depravity of sin. Being nice doesn't save one from Hell, however. Only Jesus can do that. And because Jesus hates homosexuality, well, it only makes sense that we aren't going to cozy up to sodomites. I mean, do you intentionally befriend those who offend your loved ones?

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Hello, from a non beliving swede

I don't really think you are wrong, you have your opinion and I respect that. But I am having a hard time seeing a GOD such as yours would have thoughts like hate against something like homosexuals

And how do you suggest we investigate what God thinks about homosexuals? Where should we seek that information?

[Turducken the Eskimo]

Re: Hello, from a non beliving swede

I'm so sorry to hear that. I see you've been raised as an experiment to your liberal parents. Not satisfied with refusing to teach the Law of the LORD as commanded ( Deuteronomy 11:18-21) they took it one step further and decided to go for the fashionable aspie trend.

So you mean that my parents intentionally raised me with a non faith and thus I got punished with Asperger?
Or rather is it that I have been punished or that my parents did wrong?

That's silly. Why would we hate homosexuals? Some of the nicest people can be led astray into the homosexual depravity of sin. Being nice doesn't save one from Hell, however. Only Jesus can do that. And because Jesus hates homosexuality, well, it only makes sense that we aren't going to cozy up to sodomites. I mean, do you intentionally befriend those who offend your loved ones?

I made that assumption as the most common word in the forums seems to be "hate" for something, and that you follow Jesus with your hearts would most likely make you hate the same thing.

And yes, If the trust of my victim demanded that i befriend myself with him, even if he offend my loved ones, I would do it. If the situation demanded it.
Like you wrote, You don't get far just by being kind.

And how do you suggest we investigate what God thinks about homosexuals? Where should we seek that information?

I don't know, I am don't really believe in GOD I don't know how to contact him or if we can believe in the bible, and in that case which version of the bible?
(I have heard that there are modernized versions of the bible).

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Hello, from a non beliving swede

I am an Asperger with an Specialization in socialism and logic.

Does that mean you're good at those things, or bad at them?

So if I cannot see an explanation for some things I have problems believing it.

Then you will love the Bible! Everything is explained in it. God did it.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Hello, from a non beliving swede

So you mean that my parents intentionally raised me with a non faith and thus I got punished with Asperger?
Or rather is it that I have been punished or that my parents did wrong?

Or perhaps your parents are so rebellious against God that they don't care who they hurt, even their own child. People who do not have the LORD in their hearts are capable of all kinds of horrible, terrible things.



I don't know why you have been afflicted with the autism, but I do know that faith can move mountains. (Matthew 17:20)

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Hello, from a non beliving swede

I don't know, I am don't really believe in GOD I don't know how to contact him or if we can believe in the bible, and in that case which version of the bible?
(I have heard that there are modernized versions of the bible).

Congratulations on spotting that the only source of God's wisdom is the Bible.

Find me a version of the Bible that doesn't say gays are an abomination and should be killed. There are none. I wouldn't normally do this because if the King James Version was good enough for God it's good enough for me, but to save you a bit of time:

Leviticus 20:13

New International Version (©1984)
"'If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
New Living Translation (©2007)
"If a man practices homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman, both men have committed a detestable act. They must both be put to death, for they are guilty of a capital offense.

English Standard Version (©2001)
If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them.

Holman Christian Standard Bible (©2009)
If a man sleeps with a man as with a woman, they have both committed a detestable thing. They must be put to death; their blood is on their own hands.

International Standard Version (©2012)
"If a man has sexual relations with another male as he would with a woman, both have committed a repulsive act. They are certainly to be put to death.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
When a man has sexual intercourse with another man as with a woman, both men are doing something disgusting and must be put to death. They deserve to die.

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
If a man also lies with a man, as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

American King James Version
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be on them.

American Standard Version
And if a man lie with mankind, as with womankind, both of them have committed abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Douay-Rheims Bible
If any one lie with a man se with a woman, both have committed an abomination, let them be put to death: their blood be upon them.

Darby Bible Translation
And if a man lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall certainly be put to death; their blood is upon them.

English Revised Version
And if a man lie with mankind, as with womankind, both of them have committed abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Webster's Bible Translation
If a man also shall lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

World English Bible
"'If a man lies with a male, as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Young's Literal Translation
And a man who lieth with a male as one lieth with a woman; abomination both of them have done; they are certainly put to death; their blood is on them.

So! Is that simple enough? Want to know what God thinks, check out the definitive reference source and only place we can find God's word.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Hello, from a non beliving swede

Hello, I don't go to church is I am currently a non beliver. i don't belive in a higher force like god.
And thus has not read the bible..

//Tadeni

Well, then you certainly told us! You have all the answers, very good! Tell me, have you taken the time to tell everone else in the world of your personal revelation and the incredible abilty you have to pass judgement on things you know nothing about? Perhaps you'll see fit to tell me the winning Megaball lottery number for March?

You gutless swish, so high on chocolate that you would not know reality even if it came along and took a bite out of your backside.

[Pastor Ed Lowman]

Re: Hello, from a non beliving swede

Hello everyone,

Have seen allot of your hate about us in your forums and I feel that should inform you that allot of the information written is currently wrong, not trying to change your mind but just informing you.

Ive also come with some questions regarding your thoughts about certain things.. but Ill take those later..

My name is Tadeni Prutten!
Please take care of me!

Why not use a better name like Tom or Todd, something that doesn't sound so silly? Last name could be Patterson or something.