[WilliamJenningsBryan]

Re: Let us pray for the victims of the New Zealand shooting

Very true, Sister, as far as the current batch of white people are concerned. So are the Maoris. Even the Maoris themselves admit that there were people there when they arrived, although their legends claim that they were "spirits" or "fairies" (which I take to mean that they were pale skinned). I wonder if it is from this mysterious heritage that the people of New Zealand get their strangled vowels.

The current batch of inhabitants sound awfully like Austrians to me, but I digress.

The Maori were definitely not the original inhabitants as recent research has uncovered. Indeed, there is some evidence to suggest that there were white Europeans there prior to them.

More than likely the Maori were a bunch of socialists that banded together to steal the wealth of the white people they found there then wholesale slaughtered the peace-loving original inhabitants of New Zealand.

Proof of Pre Maori

MAORI RADIO CARBON DATING

Radio Carbon dating of early skeleton remains found in New Zealand proves there were people living in New Zealand long before the Maori. While these pre-Maori people have disappeared, there is evidence throughout New Zealand of their existence in their skeleton remains, dwellings, vegetables, plants, trees, animals and birds.
Further information can be found on www.celticnz.co.nz

DWELLINGS

There are many remains of stone buildings, dwellings, structures and archaeology sites located throughout New Zealand that shows there were people living in New Zealand long before the Maori. While many of these have been destroyed over the years and the Government has restricted areas where these stone structures and dwellings are located, Martin Doutré has researched and documented many of these, which can be found on www.celticnz.co.nz.

. . . .

https://onenzfoundation.co.nz/wordpress/articles/books-and-reviews/proof-of-pre-maori/

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Let us pray for the victims of the New Zealand shooting

... the point is, that prayer for the outcome of something that has already happened makes perfect sense. Hence, we can and should pray to God, that some of the shooting victims have repented right before their death, and accepted Jesus into their heathen Muslim hearts, thus being spared from an eternity in Hell.

I think prayer is far more powerful than that - you will recall the Gospel of John (John 11:1–44) in which Jesus brings Lazarus of Bethany back to life four days after his burial.

Prayers can be said either (i) to request God to prevent the massacre by turning back time (He can stop time, (Jos:10:12-13) so turning it back is no problem) or
(ii) to bring the dead back to life.

Therefore, I ask again - please do join me in a prayer for the 49 victims of the New Zealand shooting. You'll feel much better about yourself, knowing that you did everything that was necessary to address suffering of fellow human beings.

Indeed, but who knows? God might change His Perfect plan for "The Whole Universe Until The Eng of Time".

[Mustafa Jihad2]

Re: Let us pray for the victims of the New Zealand shooting

Yes, I know what you all are thinking after reading the thread title: "Did Baz drink a whole bottle of Moscato again? Why would we waste our time praying for a bunch of hellbound heathens?!?"

Well, hear me out.

1. Our prayer will be the cheapest way to express our solidarity with people who were slaughtered in an unlawful mass murder. It is true that the Bible condones mass violence when appropriate (e.g., Deuteronomy 7:2, Deuteronomy 20:13-14, 16-18, 1 Samuel 15:3) however, it also teaches us that we need to follow secular laws (e.g., Titus 3:1, Hebrews 13:17-18, 1 Peter 2:13-14). What that gunman did was contrary to the New Zealand laws (I'm going on a limb here assuming New Zealand does have some laws prohibiting shooting in mosques, otherwise, I don't think their Prime Minister would have acted as surprised as she did), therefore, an injustice has happened, therefore, our prayer is the simplest way to address and alleviate the injustice.

2. Thanks to Pastor Bathfire's excellent essay on the quantum mechanics of prayer, we know that power of prayer can be retroactive, albeit in a rather oblique way. Let's cite the appropriate passage from the aforementioned essay:

Now, I have no idea who Schrödinger is and why we should care about his cat, but the point is, that prayer for the outcome of something that has already happened makes perfect sense. Hence, we can and should pray to God, that some of the shooting victims have repented right before their death, and accepted Jesus into their heathen Muslim hearts, thus being spared from an eternity in Hell.

Therefore, I ask again - please do join me in a prayer for the 49 victims of the New Zealand shooting. You'll feel much better about yourself, knowing that you did everything that was necessary to address suffering of fellow human beings.

I would like to thank you very very much for your post. May God rearward you for this.

We can be here arguing and telling each other we are infidels, that we will go to hell, but at the end of the day we are all sons of Adam, followers of Abraham alaihi salam, and believers in the Lord of the Universe.

The atheists, the Jus, and Satan are all agaisnt us and they dont care if we are Muslim or True Christian they hate us for believing in God.

May God guide us all and protect us from terrorists of any faith or creed

[Dennis Lukes]

Re: Let us pray for the victims of the New Zealand shooting

I would like to thank you very very much for your post. May God rearward you for this.

We can be here arguing and telling each other we are infidels, that we will go to hell, but at the end of the day we are all sons of Adam, followers of Abraham alaihi salam, and believers in the Lord of the Universe.

The atheists, the Jus, and Satan are all agaisnt us and they dont care if we are Muslim or True Christian they hate us for believing in God.

May God guide us all and protect us from terrorists of any faith or creed

And let's not forget that that Austrian boy, misled and sinful though his actions were, was only acting in self defense to protect his island from foreign invaders. The Muslims there were like Muslims everywhere, a fifth column of Sharia law Islamists disguising their true radicalism under the principle of Taqiya. If it was an act of "terror," it was not committed to sow terror; it was committed OUT OF terror at the Muslim menace.


Ultimately, the blame for this shooting rests firmly on your shoulders and those of your fellow devil-worshipping sand people infidels.

[Dr. Anthony J. Toole]

Re: Let us pray for the victims of the New Zealand shooting

Ultimately, the blame for this shooting rests firmly on your shoulders and those of your fellow devil-worshipping sand people infidels.

Wait.... I thought the infidels were the good guys.

[Basilissa]

Re: Let us pray for the victims of the New Zealand shooting

I would like to thank you very very much for your post. May God rearward you for this.

Thank you, dear, for recognizing that my call to pray was the best possible action among all the other possibilities (which include but are not limited to gun control, limiting hate speech, promoting cross cultural education and other means to meet and build friendships with people of diverse cultural and religious backgrounds, etc, etc).

[Jeb Stuart Thurmond]

Re: Let us pray for the victims of the New Zealand shooting

Now, I have no idea who Schrödinger is and why we should care about his cat,

This is the internet. People care about cats here.

[Mustafa Jihad2]

Re: Let us pray for the victims of the New Zealand shooting

Thank you, dear, for recognizing that my call to pray was the best possible action among all the other possibilities (which include but are not limited to gun control, limiting hate speech, promoting cross cultural education and other means to meet and build friendships with people of diverse cultural and religious backgrounds, etc, etc).

Of course prayer is always the best option. Please dont mistake me from those liberal Muslims. Guns belong to the people. The same right i have to take arms to defend the middle east, you have to take guns and defend your USA. I also agree free speech should not be limited in the global scene. I mean, you coming to Saudi to insult Islam I wouldn’t support. But you insulting Islam in your country, or in an international meeting, i would support it. It would be your right to express your concern in that scenario, and a duty on Muslim representatives to prove you wrong.

But I disagree in your statement that we should not meet and befriend people of other cultures.

The ayah 49:13
O mankind! Lo! We have created you male and female, and have made you nations and tribes that ye may know one another. Lo! the noblest of you, in the sight of Allah, is the best in conduct. Lo! Allah is Knower, Aware.

We were made into different nations and tribes to get to know each other. We have no other quarrel agains Americans apart from the fact that they are actively attacking us i war. And I know Americans dont want this wars, its the jus that are forcing innocent Americans to die for Israel. Arab and natios and America were never enemies before the ju zionists forced you into those wars.

The first country in the world to step up and recognize the independence of America after the war against the Brits, was Algeria, Muslim country.

[Dennis Lukes]

Re: Let us pray for the victims of the New Zealand shooting

Of course prayer is always the best option.

That is correct (Matthew 21:22), so long as you're a Christian. Otherwise, you're wasting your time. Why bother praying to a god that doesn't exist?

Please dont mistake me from those liberal Muslims.

Is there such thing? They tend to have quite a bit in common with us Republicans, especially their stance on gender, science, faggotry, and the union of church and state. I can't for the life of me understand why libtards like the sand people so much. Besides Hellbound heathen behavior and a contempt for Christ, the two have little in common. Mudslimes would make such good Republicans if only they'd convert to Christianity, speak American instead of terrorist moonspeak, and take those rags off their heads.

Guns belong to the people. The same right i have to take arms to defend the middle east, you have to take guns and defend your USA.

I'm a little confused here. The Second Amendment, which guarantees the right to keep and bear arms (and it doesn't say whatever kind of arms we damn well please, but that's surely implied) is part of the AMERICAN Constitution. It has nothing at all to do with you heathen foreigners. What are you, some kind of globalist? Jesus commands His followers to purchase weapons (Luke 22:36), but you're a terrorist pagan, not a follower of Christ, so that doesn't apply to you either. Non-Christian foreigners should certainly NOT be allowed access to weapons under any circumstances, unless they're using them to kill other heathen foreigners and not us.

I also agree free speech should not be limited in the global scene.

Right on, you camel-raping sand monkey!

I mean, you coming to Saudi to insult Islam I wouldn’t support. But you insulting Islam in your country, or in an international meeting, i would support it.

There's no reason for me to ever come to your shithole country. If I want to get decapitated by a bunch of shrieking brown devils, I'd just go to Chicago. It's a lot closer.

It would be your right to express your concern in that scenario, and a duty on Muslim representatives to prove you wrong.

John 14:6 proves YOU wrong, boy. REPENT NOW!!! There's still a chance! Take my hand and walk with me in the light of the Lord Jesus Christ before He casts your sandy carcass into Hell with Muhammad, bin Laden, and all of the other Mudslime terrorists!!

its the jus that are forcing innocent Americans to die for Israel. Arab and natios and America were never enemies before the ju zionists forced you into those wars.

If by "zionists" you mean "neoconservatives." It was our former President, one of the greatest men who ever lived, George W. Bush who recognized the axis of evil for what it was and attacked in self defense.


You are right that Jews are a menace. But do you know where they came from? The Jews have their origin in the Hebrews who rejected the divinity of Christ. Thus they ceased to be God's chosen people and are cursed and wicked. The good Hebrews accepted Jesus as God and became known as Christians. The lesson you should take from this is to accept Christ as your personal savior.

The first country in the world to step up and recognize the independence of America after the war against the Brits, was Algeria, Muslim country.

What are you blabbering on about? There was no "country" called Algeria until 1962. During the American Revolution, Algeria was a vassal state of the Ottoman Empire, not an independent nation.

[Basilissa]

Re: Let us pray for the victims of the New Zealand shooting

Of course prayer is always the best option. Please dont mistake me from those liberal Muslims. Guns belong to the people. The same right i have to take arms to defend the middle east, you have to take guns and defend your USA.

And we do defend the USA, in every corner of the world that has oil or other important resources!

But I disagree in your statement that we should not meet and befriend people of other cultures.

Well, this is not what I said - I just said that prayer is a better/more effective means of ending violence. I do agree we have to meet and befriend people of other cultures - otherwise, we could not convert these hellbound heathens to the Only True Religion.

The first country in the world to step up and recognize the independence of America after the war against the Brits, was Algeria, Muslim country.

As duly noted by Brother Dennis, they were still part of the Ottoman Empire at the time, soon thereafter to be swallowed by the French.

[Dennis Lukes]

Re: Let us pray for the victims of the New Zealand shooting

soon thereafter to be swallowed by the French.

I forgot to mention this incredibly salient point.

How any nation that was conquered by this monstrosity can dare to even call itself a "nation" is beyond me. How unutterably humiliating to be crushed underneath the boot of an effete, limp-wristed, wine-drinking, snail-eating, white flag-waving frog that stinks of cheese!


And where was Muhammad when these Eurostrash fairies conquered one of his lands? Oh, that's right, taking it up the rear from Satan for his unspeakable blasphemy. Muhammad was a pedophile and a false prophet. Either he was a delusional lunatic (like Charles Manson) or he was a lying charlatan who made up stories (like Joseph Smith). Either way, everyone who follows him will end up in Hell getting raped by Satan. Burn your Koran and follow the one true faith, whose prophets ACTUALLY spoke with God.

^ this is a picture of Muhammad, by the way

[Basilissa]

Re: Let us pray for the victims of the New Zealand shooting

How any nation that was conquered by this monstrosity can dare to even call itself a "nation" is beyond me. How unutterably humiliating to be crushed underneath the boot of an effete, limp-wristed, wine-drinking, snail-eating, white flag-waving frog that stinks of cheese!

I was actually thinking about that, too. The fact that Algerians were conquered by the "wait, we're waving our white flag already" French means that Algerians were even quicker at drawing their white flag.

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

Re: Let us pray for the victims of the New Zealand shooting

Of course prayer is always the best option. Please dont mistake me from those liberal Muslims. Guns belong to the people. The same right i have to take arms to defend the middle east, you have to take guns and defend your USA. I also agree free speech should not be limited in the global scene. I mean, you coming to Saudi to insult Islam I wouldn’t support. But you insulting Islam in your country, or in an international meeting, i would support it. It would be your right to express your concern in that scenario, and a duty on Muslim representatives to prove you wrong.

But I disagree in your statement that we should not meet and befriend people of other cultures.

The ayah 49:13
O mankind! Lo! We have created you male and female, and have made you nations and tribes that ye may know one another. Lo! the noblest of you, in the sight of Allah, is the best in conduct. Lo! Allah is Knower, Aware.

We were made into different nations and tribes to get to know each other. We have no other quarrel agains Americans apart from the fact that they are actively attacking us i war. And I know Americans dont want this wars, its the jus that are forcing innocent Americans to die for Israel. Arab and natios and America were never enemies before the ju zionists forced you into those wars.

The first country in the world to step up and recognize the independence of America after the war against the Brits, was Algeria, Muslim country.

Understand something here Mustafa, we didn't start these wars - the mooselimbs did, and that means the religion of "peace". Calling everyone else except theselves "infidels" gave them the excuse.

Thomas Jefferson had to deploy the first Godly American Marines to put a stop to it.

Barbary Wars

The Barbary Wars were a series of conflicts that culminated in two wars fought at different times over the same reasons between the United States, Sweden, and the Barbary states (the de jure possessions of the Ottoman Empire, but de facto independent, Tunis, Algiers, and Tripoli) of North Africa in the late 18th and early 19th centuries. The Swedes had been at war with the Tripolitans since 1800; they were eventually joined by the Americans.

At issue was the Barbary pirates' demand for tribute from American merchant vessels in the Mediterranean Sea. If ships of a given country failed to pay, pirates would attack the ship and take their goods, and often enslave crew members or hold them for ransom.

When Thomas Jefferson became President of the United States in March 1801, he refused to pay tribute and sent a United States Naval fleet to the Mediterranean; the fleet bombarded various fortified pirate cities in present-day Libya, Tunisia, and Algeria, ultimately extracting concessions of fair passage from their rulers. James Madison, Jefferson's successor, directed military forces for the second war in 1815, shortly after the conclusion of the War of 1812 against the British.

. . .

The Barbary corsairs, sometimes called Ottoman corsairs or Berber pirates, were pirates and privateers who operated from North Africa, based primarily in the ports of Tunis, Tripoli, and Algiers. This area was known in Europe as the Barbary Coast, a term derived from the name of its Berber inhabitants. Their predation extended throughout the Mediterranean, south along West Africa's Atlantic seaboard and even to the eastern coast of South America with Brazil, and into the North Atlantic Ocean as far north as Iceland, but they primarily operated in the western Mediterranean. In addition to seizing ships, they engaged in razzias, raids on European coastal towns and villages, mainly in Italy, France, Spain, and Portugal, but also in England, Scotland, the Netherlands, Ireland, and as far away as Iceland. The main purpose of their attacks was to capture European slaves for the Arab slave market in North Africa.

. . .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_Wars

[Mustafa Jihad2]

Re: Let us pray for the victims of the New Zealand shooting

Lmao you guys have a very distorted version of history 😂

Yeah it is absolutely a shame our countries were invaded by the French after the fall of the Caliphate (lesson learned, dont trust Turks with your Caliphate!) but wait a minute, have you seen France now?
Who has invaded who now?

Regarding liberal Muslims, believe they do exist. However they are very prone to losing their heads, so they only become vocal once they leave our countries. They believe lots of crazy things, like that humans can make better laws than God, or that sodomy should be something to be proud of. But our Prophet, salalahu alaihi wa salam, made very clear how to deal with them:

Quran (7:80-84) - "...For ye practice your lusts on men in preference to women: ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds.... And we rained down on them a shower (of brimstone)"



Abu Dawud (4462) - The Messenger of Allah (and blessings of Allah be upon him) said, "Whoever you find doing the action of the people of Loot, execute the one who does it and the one to whom it is done." (This is a sahih hadith)

Abu Dawud (4448) - "If a man who is not married is seized committing sodomy, he will be stoned to death." (Note the implicit approval of sodomizing one's wife. You can sodomize your wife. Because its yours. Period. (Pun not intented))

Sahih Bukhari (72:774) - "The Prophet cursed effeminate men (those men who are in the similitude (assume the manners of women) and those women who assume the manners of men, and he said, 'Turn them out of your houses .' The Prophet turned out such-and-such man, and 'Umar turned out such-and-such woman."

al-Tirmidhi, Sunan 1:152 - [Muhammad said] "Whoever is found conducting himself in the manner of the people of Lot, kill the doer and the receiver."

Note: Prophet Lut alaihi salam was the Prophet that was sent to Sodom and Gomorra. Nobody believed in him, except his 2 daughters.

Reliance of the Traveller, p17.2 - "May Allah curse him who does what Lot's people did."

So im afraid i cant tell you why your american liberals like Muslims so much. I think they just like the liberal ones.


Regarding why Muhammad salalahu alaihi wa salam didnt intervene on the french invasion, the answer is simple. He was dead. We Muslims dont believe in magical men with magical powers. Only God has power. The Prophets are just people, teaching a message. They dont have super powers

You americans have given too much attention to your superhero movies, with satanic marvel and DC (is this an abreviation of DeCadence?) thats why you believe God can become man.

No Man is God. Jesus alaihi salam is the Messiah and the Christ, but he is a man. Not god. Jesus ate and defecated. Why would you worship a god that defecates? Praise and worship the only True God! Not a mere man!

[Basilissa]

Re: Let us pray for the victims of the New Zealand shooting

have you seen France now?
Who has invaded who now?

My understanding is that France is currently suffering an invasion of pesky insects? Which, for whatever reason, organize and attack only on weekends? (Taking the "weekend warrior" expression to a whole new level!)

Regarding liberal Muslims, believe they do exist. However they are very prone to losing their heads, so they only become vocal once they leave our countries. They believe lots of crazy things, like that humans can make better laws than God, or that sodomy should be something to be proud of.

I see, sort of like our fluffy bunny liberal false Christians, who prefer to believe in some sort of hippie free-love-for-all deity, rather than in the True God of the Bible. These people prefer to ignore most of the Bible rather than accept that God's jealousy, vengeance, and hate are stronger than His love:

Exodus 34:14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:

Nahum 1:2 God is jealous, and the Lord revengeth; the Lord revengeth, and is furious; the Lord will take vengeance on his adversaries, and he reserveth wrath for his enemies.

Abu Dawud (4448) - "If a man who is not married is seized committing sodomy, he will be stoned to death." (Note the implicit approval of sodomizing one's wife. You can sodomize your wife. Because its yours. Period. (Pun not intented))

This is interesting - so does that also mean that a married man, who sodomizes a bacha bazi is OK, too?

So im afraid i cant tell you why your american liberals like Muslims so much. I think they just like the liberal ones.

Kinda like when Western leftist so-called "intellectuals" were praising the Soviet communist system, huh? What can I say - some people are just inherently stupid.

You americans have given too much attention to your superhero movies, with satanic marvel and DC (is this an abreviation of DeCadence?)

Not all of us, dear. Here at LBC, we bravely denounce all forms of Satan's Entertainment.

No Man is God. Jesus alaihi salam is the Messiah and the Christ, but he is a man. Not god. Jesus ate and defecated. Why would you worship a god that defecates?

Careful, dear, you are threading very close to blasphemy! Let me direct you to this thread by my Brother in Christ, Bro Gonz:

https://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=116059

I know it says "atheists," but as a hellbound Muhammad's follower you are just like an atheist fool (Psalm 14:1). DO NOT cross that dangerous threshold, Musty!