[handmaiden]

Preacher Matt Powell is no True Christian™!

On the surface, Powell seems to be in tune with the mind of God regarding homosexuality, at least according to this article.

“As far as homosexuality goes, I believe the Bible puts the death penalty on it,” Powell said.

Examined carefully, though, that statement turns out to be some weak tea. Why would anyone who has read the Bible equivocate with the expression, "I believe" when there are numerous verses throughout God's Word that clearly lay down the law on capital crimes such as homosexuality?

Even worse, however, is Powell's declaration that he, "believes in humane executions."

Does this supposed preacher of The Word believe in "Godly" executions, or some vague "humanist" standard?

Ultimately, what we believe or don't believe is of no consquence to Almighty God. He was Lord and King of Everything before we were created. Billions of people on this planet do not believe in Him at all. Does that make Our Lord and Savior less real?

God saw fit to enscribe stoning as His execution of choice in His Holy Word and He spelled out quite clearly which offenses of His Law are punishable by death. Start suggesting alternatives on the first and you may as well regard the second as mere suggestions as well.

When are people going to wake up and stop saying stupid things about morality and criminality that they claim are supported by the Bible?

If you claim to be a preacher of God's Word, then make certain that what you preach squares with God's Word. Don't play fast and loose with the words of the Bible. They are scripture, not jazz.


2 Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:


Leviticus 18:22
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination

Leviticus 20:13

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.


I have highlighted the word "blood" in black (ironically) to emphasize God's position on the means of putting to death those who enage in gay sex. When's someone's own blood is splashed over their dead body, the likelyhood that they were licked to death by kittens is remote.

So, to all those so-called followers of the Bible like Matt Powell, just read the words on the page. God doesn't need you to extrapolate on subjects in which He has made Himself abundantly clear.

[BrotherLarry]

Sister Handmaiden,


I was filled with emotion as I read your obviously God-inspired post. As a person who walks with the unnaturally affected every single day, I am amazed by those who believe homers should be given a light smack on the hand. Not me! I believe those who find themselves dabbling with sin should be SPANKED. I personally have spanked several men while ministering to their needs - and guess what! The earth moved. Their cries to God were overpowering. I could just envision the devil fleeing - and that's why I won't stop showing my love in its fullness so that heaven is full of fabulous decorators to glorify my Jesus. Heaven will be adorned with the Glory of God and He will be pleased with the work of saved homers.


Keep praying and believing, sister, my friend. He will inspire you with more messages for a lost and dying world. GLORY!


BrotherLarry

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Originally Posted by handmaiden

Even worse, however, is Powell's declaration that he, "believes in humane executions."[...]
So, to all those so-called followers of the Bible like Matt Powell, just read the words on the page. God doesn't need you to extrapolate on subjects in which He has made Himself abundantly clear.

I could not have put it better myself.


There are too many people - in fact the vast majority of "Christians so-called" who think they can "improve upon God's commands."


It is as if they have created a god in the image of themselves and are worshiping it rather than the God of Abraham.

[biatch77]

I am always thankful for anyone who shows compassion and mercy, that it is the attribute of God. This minister must be a true believe if he "believes in humane executions" as you say.


I have seen terrible YouTube videos of gay men in Iran struggling in agony as they hang slowly from a crane or low hanging type platform, this is truly a terrible punishment and nothing that any true Christian would ever want to be a part of.

Originally Posted by handmaiden

Preacher Matt Powell is no True Christian™!

On the surface, Powell seems to be in tune with the mind of God regarding homosexuality, at least according to this article.

“As far as homosexuality goes, I believe the Bible puts the death penalty on it,” Powell said.

Examined carefully, though, that statement turns out to be some weak tea. Why would anyone who has read the Bible equivocate with the expression, "I believe" when there are numerous verses throughout God's Word that clearly lay down the law on capital crimes such as homosexuality?

Even worse, however, is Powell's declaration that he, "believes in humane executions."

Does this supposed preacher of The Word believe in "Godly" executions, or some vague "humanist" standard?

Ultimately, what we believe or don't believe is of no consquence to Almighty God. He was Lord and King of Everything before we were created. Billions of people on this planet do not believe in Him at all. Does that make Our Lord and Savior less real?

God saw fit to enscribe stoning as His execution of choice in His Holy Word and He spelled out quite clearly which offenses of His Law are punishable by death. Start suggesting alternatives on the first and you may as well regard the second as mere suggestions as well.

When are people going to wake up and stop saying stupid things about morality and criminality that they claim are supported by the Bible?

If you claim to be a preacher of God's Word, then make certain that what you preach squares with God's Word. Don't play fast and loose with the words of the Bible. They are scripture, not jazz.


2 Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:


Leviticus 18:22
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination

Leviticus 20:13

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.


I have highlighted the word "blood" in black (ironically) to emphasize God's position on the means of putting to death those who enage in gay sex. When's someone's own blood is splashed over their dead body, the likelyhood that they were licked to death by kittens is remote.

So, to all those so-called followers of the Bible like Matt Powell, just read the words on the page. God doesn't need you to extrapolate on subjects in which He has made Himself abundantly clear.

[Basilissa]

Originally Posted by bchas77

I am always thankful for anyone who shows compassion and mercy, that it is the attribute of God. This minister must be a true believe if he "believes in humane executions" as you say.

I have seen terrible YouTube videos of gay men in Iran struggling in agony as they hang slowly from a crane or low hanging type platform, this is truly a terrible punishment and nothing that any true Christian would ever want to be a part of.

Meh. Whichever way they die, they end up the same way:

1 Corinthians 6:9-10
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

What worries me, though, is that you seem to be seeking such videos - I've never seen a video of an actual death or torture in my life, because I don't seek them - but you seem to have a sadistic or masochistic streak in you, huh?

[biatch77]

Good, so at least you agree with the minister. You support a humane way in which to punish offenders then.


You would support that minister as he "believes in humane executions" instead of slow hanging or burning people at the stake?

Originally Posted by Basilissa

Meh. Whichever way they die, they end up the same way:

1 Corinthians 6:9-10
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

What worries me, though, is that you seem to be seeking such videos - I've never seen a video of an actual death or torture in my life, because I don't seek them - but you seem to have a sadistic or masochistic streak in you, huh?

[Basilissa]

Originally Posted by bchas77

Good, so at least you agree with the minister. You support a humane way in which to punish offenders then.

I'm confused, how did you get that idea? I just said, that whichever way they die (killed by men or killed by God via disease), they are going to Hell. That's a statement of a fact regarding their future, not a statement regarding my preferences how they die.

You would support that minister as he "believes in humane executions" instead of slow hanging or burning people at the stake?

Look, I will support whatever legislation is brought by our Godly President Donald J. Trump (), because as a Christian, my duty is to support the laws of the land where I live. (It's in the Bible, look it up). Personally, though, Mike Pence's program of electrocuting homosexuals seems really good, I hope they implement it at the national level.

[biatch77]

electrocuting homosexuals? where did that come from, never heard of it?


You couldn't be thinking of sending homosexuals to the electric chair?


Electric execution just for being GAY?


Now I KNOW that YOU can't be serious!!!!!


"electrocuting homosexuals seems really good, I hope they implement it at the national level"


It doesn't seem really good to me, seems like a nightmare from hell!!!!!

Originally Posted by Basilissa

I'm confused, how did you get that idea? I just said, that whichever way they die (killed by men or killed by God via disease), they are going to Hell. That's a statement of a fact regarding their future, not a statement regarding my preferences how they die.

Look, I will support whatever legislation is brought by our Godly President Donald J. Trump (), because as a Christian, my duty is to support the laws of the land where I live. (It's in the Bible, look it up). Personally, though, Mike Pence's program of electrocuting homosexuals seems really good, I hope they implement it at the national level.

[Didymus Much]

Originally Posted by bchas77

...Electric execution just for being GAY?...

It's one of those cases where God of the Bible told people that other people should die (because they do stuff they like and doesn't really affect anyone else) because that's part of obeying Him in order go to Heaven, but He never found the time to specify which method should be used in that particular case, so it's a "feel free to be creative" moment.

...Now I KNOW that YOU can't be serious!!!!!...

Leviticus 20:13 "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall beupon them."

Now, admittedly, there exists some disagreement over the meaning of the last phrase, whether it should be taken literally (after you kill them, gather up some of the blood and splash it all over them) or figuratively, where it means that the guilt associated with what would normally be considered a brutal mob murder is transferred instead to the dead person(s).

Hope this helps you understand. Actually reading the Bible (the whole thing) would help a lot more.

[Basilissa]

Originally Posted by bchas77

electrocuting homosexuals? where did that come from, never heard of it?

You couldn't be thinking of sending homosexuals to the electric chair?

Electric execution just for being GAY?

Wait, now I'm confused: so you don't think the electric chair is a humane way to die? I thought you said you wanted gays to be executed in humane way?

Here:

Originally Posted by bchas77

I am always thankful for anyone who shows compassion and mercy, that it is the attribute of God. This minister must be a true believe if he "believes in humane executions" as you say.

Nonetheless, I was not talking about electrocuting them to death, just doing it the Mike Pence way. You know, electric shocks to make them straight.

[Dana723]

Originally Posted by bchas77

electrocuting homosexuals? where did that come from, never heard of it?


You couldn't be thinking of sending homosexuals to the electric chair?


Electric execution just for being GAY?


Now I KNOW that YOU can't be serious!!!!!


"electrocuting homosexuals seems really good, I hope they implement it at the national level"


It doesn't seem really good to me, seems like a nightmare from hell!!!!!

If you're not gay, then you don't need to worry about being electrocuted. It's that simple.

[Biblewarrior2003]

Have you heard about the satanic game, "Fortnite"? IT IS ALLEGEDLY HOMOSEXUAL PROPOGANDA! Its players say, "Fortnite is gay!"!


Worst of all, WOMEN AREN'T AT THE HOME NESTING THEIR BABIES! There are devilish women out fighting like men! Devil worship!


The women dress in TANK TOPS AND PANTS! WHAAAAAT!? WOMEN ARE SUPPOSED TO DRESS IN A COMPLETE BUSSEL DRESS FROM THE 1890'S!


THIS GEMA IS EVIL AND THEY WILL BE JUDGED!

[Esther B.]

Originally Posted by Biblewarrior2003

Have you heard about the satanic game, "Fortnite"? IT IS ALLEGEDLY HOMOSEXUAL PROPOGANDA! Its players say, "Fortnite is gay!"!


Worst of all, WOMEN AREN'T AT THE HOME NESTING THEIR BABIES! There are devilish women out fighting like men! Devil worship!


The women dress in TANK TOPS AND PANTS! WHAAAAAT!? WOMEN ARE SUPPOSED TO DRESS IN A COMPLETE BUSSEL DRESS FROM THE 1890'S!


THIS GEMA IS EVIL AND THEY WILL BE JUDGED!

What does this have to do with the thread? We already have a thread about Fortnite. I'll give you the link this time, but next time you need to use the Search feature and find it yourself. Here you go: http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=114692

[biatch77]

Sorry, but I still have no idea what you are talking about when you say "electrocuting gays"


Is that a punishment, an execution method....what is that?

Originally Posted by Dana723

If you're not gay, then you don't need to worry about being electrocuted. It's that simple.

[Basilissa]

Originally Posted by bchas77

Sorry, but I still have no idea what you are talking about when you say "electrocuting gays"

Is that a punishment, an execution method....what is that?

I already explained it here:

Originally Posted by Basilissa

Wait, now I'm confused: so you don't think the electric chair is a humane way to die? I thought you said you wanted gays to be executed in humane way?

Here:

Nonetheless, I was not talking about electrocuting them to death, just doing it the Mike Pence way. You know, electric shocks to make them straight.

[biatch77]

No, it is a punishment then because it sounds to me like the Tucker Telephone used to punish male inmates in the Arkansas Prisons.




At the notorious Tucker State Prison Farm male inmates would be taken to the punishment room where they would be restrained to a flat table. Two electric wires would be attached to the male offender.


The ground wire was wrapped around the big toe and the "hot wire" (the wire that administers the current of electricity) would be applied to the genitals. The crank on the phone would then be turned, and an electric current would shoot into the prisoner's body.



The electric current would cause excruciating pain to the male genitals. Continuing with the telephone euphemisms, 'long-distance calls' referred to several such charges, just before the point of losing consciousness. Often the victim would experience detrimental effects, mainly permanent organ damage, mental health problems, loss of one or both testicles and rendered permanently impotent.

[Brother Gonzalez]

Originally Posted by bchas77

No, it is a punishment then because it sounds to me like the Tucker Telephone used to punish male inmates in the Arkansas Prisons.




At the notorious Tucker State Prison Farm male inmates would be taken to the punishment room where they would be restrained to a flat table. Two electric wires would be attached to the male offender.


The ground wire was wrapped around the big toe and the "hot wire" (the wire that administers the current of electricity) would be applied to the genitals. The crank on the phone would then be turned, and an electric current would shoot into the prisoner's body.



The electric current would cause excruciating pain to the male genitals. Continuing with the telephone euphemisms, 'long-distance calls' referred to several such charges, just before the point of losing consciousness. Often the victim would experience detrimental effects, mainly permanent organ damage, mental health problems, loss of one or both testicles and rendered permanently impotent.

If they are taken to the punishment room, is because they misbehave. So they had it coming.

[biatch77]

I am not sure they had it "coming to them" but the punishment was extreme and severe, no need for it and it was eventually stopped by a more "Humane" approach to corrections, instead of the punishment model.


According to a February 20, 1967, Newsweek report, inmates were punished with beatings, whippings, torture with pliers, and needles put under their fingernails, in addition to the use of the Tucker Telephone. Much of the abuse was carried out by guards and the prison trusties who reported to them. The 1980 movie Brubaker, loosely inspired by events within the Arkansas prison system, depicts an inmate named Abraham being tortured with the Tucker Telephone. Devices similar to the Tucker Telephone have been employed up to the present day. A Tucker Telephone was allegedly used in a Chicago violent crime unit managed by Lieutenant Jon Burge to torture suspects during the 1980s. During the Vietnam War, some American GIs reportedly converted their field phones into torture devices, and something like the Tucker Telephone was used by American interrogators to torture Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison.

[James Hutchins]

Originally Posted by bchas77

I am always thankful for anyone who shows compassion and mercy, that it is the attribute of God. This minister must be a true believe if he "believes in humane executions" as you say.


I have seen terrible YouTube videos of gay men in Iran struggling in agony as they hang slowly from a crane or low hanging type platform, this is truly a terrible punishment and nothing that any true Christian would ever want to be a part of.

I trust you found relief in this.
YIC
JH

[biatch77]

Relief?


To be clear I am against the persecution of gays, or any other minority group. Hell, I don't even advocate the death penalty, but for crying out loud it should be at least humane if it is used.



Just look at places like Iran and North Korea where their human rights violations are horrible.



While I've got you here on the forum, someone keeps putting things on my profile, changing my profile and saying terrible and untrue things about me, humiliating me and exaggerating what I have said in the past, this is very unfair to me.

Originally Posted by James Hutchins

I trust you found relief in this.
YIC
JH