[SalvationSeeker]

Re: Bananas Prove God Exists

And where did you get that stupid name "jenova"?
It's spelled "Jehova".

And even spelled that way, it still isn't the real name of God.
It's just you witless homers using corrupted hebrew manuscripts which you doesn't even understand..

[Abdul-Khaaliq]

Re: Bananas Prove God Exists

Atheist and Jehova Witness both be put to death when Allah Jesus (Peace be upon Him) is in charge of your nation.

[jenova]

Re: Bananas Prove God Exists

Actually, we talked about it in small group, although it probably is a favorite among atheists. We came to the conclusion that you can either take the Old Testament figuratively, since it was written in the old times and "times" have changed since then. Or, to take it literally. We take it literally, and for us, work only includes working as in a job. There are some people that do no "work", for example cooking and cleaning, or even getting out of bed. They have all their meals prepared the day ahead. We can't prove that they are right, nor can we prove they are wrong.

Atheists are human too. It all depends on what you believe the definition of moral is. "morality" refers to the concept of human ethics which pertains to matters of good and evil ". What is the definition of your morals? Obedience to Gods laws? Kay, so what are his laws exactly? I know of the 10 commandments, but it's still up to the individual to accept them or not.

About the last thing I said, as with rapists they do what they do because they don't think it's immoral. However I, and hopefully you, do believe that rape is not right. Some people believe that the military is justified with accidentally killing people who are not against them if they are caught in the line of fire or mass bombing. Some believe that only those that try to harm others, should be taken care of and hurting someone who has no intent of hurting you is wrong.

[jenova]

Re: Bananas Prove God Exists

Jenova is a character in a video game. I specifically chose that name to use here to see if you "witless homers" can even use google. The ineffable name of God is..well ineffable. I don't know why you are even typing it. Do you know that little of your own religion?

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: Bananas Prove God Exists

Actually, we talked about it in small group, although it probably is a favorite among atheists. We came to the conclusion that you can either take the Old Testament figuratively, since it was written in the old times and "times" have changed since then. Or, to take it literally. We take it literally, and for us, work only includes working as in a job. There are some people that do no "work", for example cooking and cleaning, or even getting out of bed. They have all their meals prepared the day ahead. We can't prove that they are right, nor can we prove they are wrong.

Atheists are human too. It all depends on what you believe the definition of moral is. "morality" refers to the concept of human ethics which pertains to matters of good and evil ". What is the definition of your morals? Obedience to Gods laws? Kay, so what are his laws exactly? I know of the 10 commandments, but it's still up to the individual to accept them or not.

About the last thing I said, as with rapists they do what they do because they don't think it's immoral. However I, and hopefully you, do believe that rape is not right. Some people believe that the military is justified with accidentally killing people who are not against them if they are caught in the line of fire or mass bombing. Some believe that only those that try to harm others, should be taken care of and hurting someone who has no intent of hurting you is wrong.

What a load of horsedung!
None of this is based on the Bible!
Only the ten commandments mentioned are, but you doesn't seem to recognize them as necessary. Very unbiblical of you.

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Matthew 5:17-18

Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
Hebrews 13:8

So as you can see.. The times may change, but God does not, nor does His rules change!
They are set in stone until heaven and earth passes. (Which happens in Revelation 21)

Jenova is a character in a video game. I specifically chose that name to use here to see if you "witless homers" can even use google. The ineffable name of God is..well ineffable. I don't know why you are even typing it. Do you know that little of your own religion?

Do you have problems with reading?
JEHOVA IS NOT THE NAME OF GOD!

It is a only a misinterpretation of the Tetragrammaton (The hebrew letters YHVH) as found in hebrew manuscripts of the OT.
Manuscripts corrupted by Satan, I might add.. So try to actually know what you're talking about before you type, you're making yourself look like a fool!

[jenova]

Re: Bananas Prove God Exists

Again, SalvationSeeker, I go the extra mile just for you

Jehovah, or Yaweh, is claimed by many to be the actual Name of God. Unfortunately, this is not entirely true; while it is representative of God's Name, it is not His actual name. Nowhere in the original manuscripts of Old Testament will you find the actual name, Jehovah, Yehovah, or Yahweh. What you will find is a grouping of four Hebrew consonants, which are equivalent to YHVH, JHVH, or YHWH in the English language. This grouping is called by Bible Scholars, "the tetragrammaton." This set of four letters was used by the Hebrew people to signify the incommunicable Name of God. Wherever it appears in the original manuscripts, it refers only to the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, in other words, the God of Israel. It was considered by the Hebrew people to be representative of the sacred, holy, name of GOD. Again, it was never used to represent anyone other than, the self existent, eternal, GOD.

[jenova]

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What a load of horsedung!
None of this is based on the Bible!
Only the ten commandments mentioned are, but you doesn't seem to recognize them as necessary. Very unbiblical of you.

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Matthew 5:17-18

Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
Hebrews 13:8

So as you can see.. The times may change, but God does not, nor does His rules change!
They are set in stone until heaven and earth passes. (Which happens in Revelation 21)

Did you not understand what I said? I said that it can be taken either way. We were discussing how humans viewed the Bible, how it can be taken into modern life. Those passages have nothing to do with human morality, which is what I was talking about. I can "regurgitate" what Brother Temperance said, and say that you are only quoting things. You haven't shown me that you understood my post. How is discussing the Bible and it's meanings, un-biblical? i never said the 10 commandments were unnecessary, please tell me where I said that. If you can't then don't make up my words, it's not very polite.

[jenova]

Re: Bananas Prove God Exists

Do you have problems with reading?
JEHOVA IS NOT THE NAME OF GOD!

It is a only a misinterpretation of the Tetragrammaton (The hebrew letters YHVH) as found in hebrew manuscripts of the OT.
Manuscripts corrupted by Satan, I might add.. So try to actually know what you're talking about before you type, you're making yourself look like a fool!

Ah, I see you added that to your post. Once again making things that I never said. Where did I say Jehova was the name of God? Do I look like a fool? Who do I look like a fool to? You? Everyone in your religion? I would like to know who sees me as a fool, before you say I look like one. I believe I have presented fair arguments so far, please tell me otherwise and I will leave you guys alone. This is not my forum, and if I am not welcome here then I will leave. Really, I' don't believe I am a horrible person and I don't like to be treated as one.

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: Bananas Prove God Exists

Again, SalvationSeeker, I go the extra mile just for you

Jehovah, or Yaweh, is claimed by many to be the actual Name of God. Unfortunately, this is not entirely true; while it is representative of God's Name, it is not His actual name. Nowhere in the original manuscripts of Old Testament will you find the actual name, Jehovah, Yehovah, or Yahweh. What you will find is a grouping of four Hebrew consonants, which are equivalent to YHVH, JHVH, or YHWH in the English language. This grouping is called by Bible Scholars, "the tetragrammaton." This set of four letters was used by the Hebrew people to signify the incommunicable Name of God. Wherever it appears in the original manuscripts, it refers only to the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, in other words, the God of Israel. It was considered by the Hebrew people to be representative of the sacred, holy, name of GOD. Again, it was never used to represent anyone other than, the self existent, eternal, GOD.

Isn't that what I just said, do I need to repeat it for you?
Do I need to refer to it as the HaShem? Or do I need to TYPE EVERYTHING in satanic hebrew too, in order for you to get it?
Seriously, what is WRONG with you?
Your own text says (as widely known) THAT IT IS NOT HIS ACTUAL NAME!

Did you not understand what I said? I said that it can be taken either way. We were discussing how humans viewed the Bible, how it can be taken into modern life. Those passages have nothing to do with human morality, which is what I was talking about. I can "regurgitate" what Brother Temperance said, and say that you are only quoting things. You haven't shown me that you understood my post. How is discussing the Bible and it's meanings, un-biblical? i never said the 10 commandments were unnecessary, please tell me where I said that. If you can't then don't make up my words, it's not very polite.

These passages say that God's law will last til the Apocalypse, your rambling about morals got nothing to do with it.
Your entire argument has NO BASE IN THE BIBLE, and so we reject it!
God's laws are to be obeyed, PERIOD. Case Closed.

[SalvationSeeker]

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Ah, I see you added that to your post. Once again making things that I never said. Where did I say Jehova was the name of God? Do I look like a fool?

YES, you look like a fool.
After I typed out "Jehova" you replied with this:

Jenova is a character in a video game. I specifically chose that name to use here to see if you "witless homers" can even use google. The ineffable name of God is..well ineffable. I don't know why you are even typing it. Do you know that little of your own religion?

Clearly, you believed it was the true name of God.
Case Closed.

[jenova]

Re: Bananas Prove God Exists

And just for the record..

So as you can see.. The times may change, but God does not, nor does His rules change!
They are set in stone until heaven and earth passes. (Which happens in Revelation 21)

I do not disagree with that. However, someone (Sorry, I forgot your name) on this forum agreed, and said that whoever works on Sunday should be put to death. yet i have not seen evidence that any of you kill people that work on Sundays. Therefore you are not doing what God asks of you to do.

And someone else(forgot your name as well) said that it should only be taken figuratively. So which is it? You're all in the same religion, but say different things.

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: Bananas Prove God Exists

I do not disagree with that. However, someone (Sorry, I forgot your name) on this forum agreed, and said that whoever works on Sunday should be put to death. yet i have not seen evidence that any of you kill people that work on Sundays. Therefore you are not doing what God asks of you to do.

And someone else(forgot your name as well) said that it should only be taken figuratively. So which is it? You're all in the same religion, but say different things.

And someone answered you why, or did you just "forget" that too?
It is because God requires us to obey secular law!

Seriously, why are you here? If you're trying to find some kind of flaw in our Theology, then give up.
Countless feelgood bible "scholars" have tried, and FAILED MISERABLY!
It is because our Theology is the unadultered word of God, with nothing removed, and nothing added, no contradictions existant!

If you're here to get Saved however, well..
Then you would do well to listen to our advice instead of trying to argue with those who are more educated than you.

[jenova]

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Well, it seems as though I am not welcome here. SalvationSeeker seems to speak for the whole, and has made it clear that I am a fool, my opinions mean nothing and that anyone who does not follow your beliefs are the most retarded sinner homer demons that have ever walked this earth. I pray to God that you are forgiven for making a fellow human being feel bad. Yes, I have sinned but so have you. You should not make people feel bad, but should try to help them as you are not perfect either.

In my opinion, there are cultist beliefs in this group, and I hope that everyone can escape and experience real Christianity. Not "True Christian TM". Why do you need to have the Trade mark symbol? Is this all a joke or business?

[jenova]

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[quopte=Brother Temperance]
You seem to have some basic understanding of the Bible, although I'm sure you're probably just regurgitating what you've read on some vile athiest site that takes God's word and attempts to use it against Him. But anyway, you are correct, those who work on Sundays should be put to death - no-one here will argue with you on that one.[/quote]

Don't summarise and leave out parts if you don't know whether or not they're essential, which you can't possibly know sinds it's God's way.
Quote:
Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the LORD: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death.
Or in other words: the people that don't honour that command will be damned, and thus killed in a spiritual sense. Their life will be empty without guidance from the Lord.

We are also required to obey secular law too friend. Until we change secular law to God's law you can not kill people breaking the Sabbath. If you were a real Christian you would know that allready.

[SalvationSeeker]

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In my opinion, there are cultist beliefs in this group, and I hope that everyone can escape and experience real Christianity. Not "True Christian TM". Why do you need to have the Trade mark symbol? Is this all a joke or business?

As we like to say; we are as serious as the eternal fires of hell.
But so.. "real" Christianity is the kind of Christianity that is not found in the Bible?
How very logical of you..

If your false Christianity would truly be so much better then why can't you find a single instance where we have been in opposition of the Bible?
You doesn't want to be a True Christian because you want to continue to sin, that's really all there is to it.