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  • Brother Temperance
    Senior Usher
    True Christian™ missionary to the Unsaved Kingdom
    A very nice young man
    True Christian™
    • Sep 2006
    • 15621

    #181
    Originally posted by jenova View Post
    Atheists are human too. It all depends on what you believe the definition of moral is. "morality" refers to the concept of human ethics which pertains to matters of good and evil ". What is the definition of your morals? Obedience to Gods laws? Kay, so what are his laws exactly? I know of the 10 commandments, but it's still up to the individual to accept them or not.
    No, we are talking about the law here. An individual can "choose" to not accept the law, but they will be punished. If they break the secular law, they will be punished by the secular state; if they break God's law they will be punished by God. It's that simple.
    About the last thing I said, as with rapists they do what they do because they don't think it's immoral. However I, and hopefully you, do believe that rape is not right. Some people believe that the military is justified with accidentally killing people who are not against them if they are caught in the line of fire or mass bombing. Some believe that only those that try to harm others, should be taken care of and hurting someone who has no intent of hurting you is wrong.
    So some people think that rape is wrong, others think that it's right. Some people think that killing someone who has no intention of hurting you is wrong, others think that it's justifiable. Who's right? We're all just people, no-one's perfect, so who's to say? We can go with the majority, but I'm sure you'd agree that there is no inherent right in a majority. The only secure foundation for any kind of morality is God's word.
    Originally posted by jenova View Post
    And just for the record..



    I do not disagree with that. However, someone (Sorry, I forgot your name) on this forum agreed, and said that whoever works on Sunday should be put to death. yet i have not seen evidence that any of you kill people that work on Sundays. Therefore you are not doing what God asks of you to do.

    And someone else(forgot your name as well) said that it should only be taken figuratively. So which is it? You're all in the same religion, but say different things.
    We are indeed commanded to put those who work on Sundays to death. However, we are also commanded to obey the powers that be, and the current oppressive anti-Christian regime has forbidden us to do so. So we must avoid executing these sinners for the time being, while working to reform the legal system to bring it more in line with God's will.

    Originally posted by jenova View Post
    Well, it seems as though I am not welcome here. SalvationSeeker seems to speak for the whole, and has made it clear that I am a fool, my opinions mean nothing and that anyone who does not follow your beliefs are the most retarded sinner homer demons that have ever walked this earth. I pray to God that you are forgiven for making a fellow human being feel bad. Yes, I have sinned but so have you. You should not make people feel bad, but should try to help them as you are not perfect either.
    Where in the Bible are we forbidden to make others feel bad? I don't remember any such commandment. In our Christian lovingkindness, we are using harsh words to try and wake you up to the reality of your sinful hellbound condition, and thus spare you from eternal suffering. What could be more loving and Christian than that?

    In my opinion, there are cultist beliefs in this group, and I hope that everyone can escape and experience real Christianity. Not "True Christian TM". Why do you need to have the Trade mark symbol? Is this all a joke or business?
    We always mean business, friend. Why should we allow false "christians" to try and pass themselves off as the real thing without putting as many obstacles in their way as possible?
    Originally posted by jenova View Post
    Originally posted by Brother Temperance
    You seem to have some basic understanding of the Bible, although I'm sure you're probably just regurgitating what you've read on some vile athiest site that takes God's word and attempts to use it against Him. But anyway, you are correct, those who work on Sundays should be put to death - no-one here will argue with you on that one.
    Although Apollyon has many good points, he is not yet a True Christian™, and so his words do not speak for our entire congregation. Therefore, there is no contradiction.
    O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



    God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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    • Belphegor
      Confirmed Enemy of God
      • Mar 2007
      • 128

      #182
      Re: Bananas Prove God Exists

      Killing people? wow you guys are **** up

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      • SalvationSeeker
        True Christian™ Theologian
        Forum Member
        • Sep 2006
        • 3892

        #183
        Re: Bananas Prove God Exists

        Originally posted by Belphegor View Post
        Killing people? wow you guys are **** up
        No, we only obey God's will.
        Nothing inappropriate about that, infact it is the ONLY proper thing to do!
        PRAISE JESUS!

        And may we soon be allowed to stone homersexuals to death again, like in the good old days.
        Amen!
        Last edited by SalvationSeeker; 03-02-2007, 11:40 PM.
        If thou be wise, thou shalt be wise for thyself: But if thou scornest, thou alone shalt bear it.
        A foolish woman is clamorous: She is simple, and knoweth nothing.
        Proverbs 9:12-13

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        • Talitha
          Deaconess
          Gracious, genteel, kind, tender, and warm True Christian™ Sister
          True Christian™
          • Apr 2026
          • 15118

          #184
          Re: Bananas Prove God Exists

          Originally posted by SalvationSeeker View Post
          No, we only obey God's will.
          Nothing inappropriate about that, infact it is the ONLY proper thing to do!
          PRAISE JESUS!

          And may we soon be allowed to stone homersexuals to death again, like in the good old days.
          Amen!
          Praise The Lord© Brother Seeker.
          Any Homer who can't be cured by Jesus® deserves stoning.

          AMEN!!

          Sister Talitha

          Markswoman, Circumcisionist, Platinum Tither.


          HE took the damsel by the hand, and said unto her, Talitha Cumi; which is,
          being interpreted, Damsel, I say unto thee, arise!...Mark 5:41



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          • Bobby-Joe
            Landover Security Superviser
            Asset Loss Prevention and Personal Security Expert
            NOT angry and positively NOT Gay
            True Christian™
            • Sep 2006
            • 18405

            #185
            Re: Bananas Prove God Exists

            Originally posted by Belphegor View Post
            Killing people? wow you guys are **** up
            Friend, what part of we don't kill people because the law says no don't you understand? We can't follow what out love of Jesus dictates because of laws put in like hate mongers like you.

            Thanks to jerks like you I can't practice my religion.

            Time to reclaim our FREEDOM from the “Mullah in Chief” and his growing activist voter hoards of socialists, communists, anti-Semites, anti-Christians, atheists, radical gays and lesbians, feminists, illegal immigrants, Muslims, anti-Anglo whites and others.

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            Time to come clean on Benghazi Mr Obama!

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            • Brother John
              Forum Member
              Forum Member
              • Feb 2007
              • 232

              #186
              Re: Bananas Prove God Exists

              Originally posted by Brother Temperance View Post
              Although Apollyon has many good points, he is not yet a True Christian™, and so his words do not speak for our entire congregation. Therefore, there is no contradiction.
              Indeed, I only post what I think is right, but am in no way schooled in the Bible like many others here. I'm still trying to walk the path to Salvation, so you'll forgive me if I stray slightly now and then, although I don't see how the spiritual killing contradicts or excludes any of the other relevant posts.

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              • G-Baby
                Confirmed Enemy of God
                • Feb 2007
                • 136

                #187
                Re: Bananas Prove God Exists

                Originally posted by Brother Temperance View Post
                No, we are talking about the law here. An individual can "choose" to not accept the law, but they will be punished. If they break the secular law, they will be punished by the secular state; if they break God's law they will be punished by God. It's that simple.

                How? Is a giant hand going to slap my scientific ass? Or will I go to hell? Wait a minute.. THERE ISN'T ONE!

                So some people think that rape is wrong, others think that it's right. Some people think that killing someone who has no intention of hurting you is wrong, others think that it's justifiable. Who's right? We're all just people, no-one's perfect, so who's to say? We can go with the majority, but I'm sure you'd agree that there is no inherent right in a majority. The only secure foundation for any kind of morality is God's word.

                I never heard him..
                You are right about rape wrong or right, killing wrong or right. But I think than we have to listen to the law, which WILL make a discision of what to do. And I think people know well enough what they do, and if they discide to do something that is inappropriated by the law, they'll have to accept the consequences. The law is impartial, if I kill someone and you kill someone, Brother Temperance, we'll both be punished for our deeds. NOT by god but by the law.

                We are indeed commanded to put those who work on Sundays to death. However, we are also commanded to obey the powers that be, and the current oppressive anti-Christian regime has forbidden us to do so. So we must avoid executing these sinners for the time being, while working to reform the legal system to bring it more in line with God's will.

                Well, start acting like a normal person in a normal social environment. Some people have to work on a sunday. Accept it! You can't stop working on a sunday because god said so, like you guys explain to us..
                Everybody has the same rights, but also the same duties.

                Where in the Bible are we forbidden to make others feel bad? I don't remember any such commandment. In our Christian lovingkindness, we are using harsh words to try and wake you up to the reality of your sinful hellbound condition, and thus spare you from eternal suffering. What could be more loving and Christian than that?

                I thought Jesus said to love your fellow human. And to forgive your worst enemy 7 to 77 times. I never read something in the bible where Jesus made someone feel bad. He always wanted to bring peace. He gave everybody to drink, to eat. He even healed people. I don't think he wanted to make people feel bad.

                We always mean business, friend. Why should we allow false "christians" to try and pass themselves off as the real thing without putting as many obstacles in their way as possible so you can avoid that they tell the truth?..

                Although Apollyon has many good points, he is not yet a True Christian™, and so his words do not speak for our entire congregation. Therefore, there is no contradiction. Thats not the only one. Other guys like me and me also have quoted some contradictions, search them back..
                greetzzz
                G-baby

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                • R-R-R
                  Rebuked-Repented-Reborn
                  Forum Member
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 183

                  #188
                  Re: Bananas Prove God Exists

                  Originally posted by G-Baby View Post
                  Or will I go to hell? Wait a minute.. THERE ISN'T ONE!
                  You'll be rather sad when you end up being incorrect about that, but then it'll be far too late.

                  Job 8:13
                  So are the paths of all that forget God; and the hypocrite's hope shall perish
                  John 20:29
                  Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

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                  • esther
                    Foul Sinner on Moderation
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 17

                    #189
                    Re: Bananas Prove God Exists

                    I'm evil and a heathen
                    I'm evil and a heathen
                    I'm a heathen and evil as you
                    There's not a lot I couldn't do

                    Who's the ****er that commanded you to kill Sunday workers? Why are all your threads pish? And, most importantly, were your parents siblings by any chance? Use your neuron to think a bit.

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                    • R-R-R
                      Rebuked-Repented-Reborn
                      Forum Member
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 183

                      #190
                      Re: Bananas Prove God Exists

                      Originally posted by esther View Post
                      I'm evil and a heathen
                      I'm evil and a heathen
                      I'm a heathen and evil as you
                      There's not a lot I couldn't do

                      Who's the ****er that commanded you to kill Sunday workers? Why are all your threads pish? And, most importantly, were your parents siblings by any chance? Use your neuron to think a bit.
                      A rather odd post, mumber two since you joined. Very nice, you're going to be rather popular. NOT.

                      On what do you base your ridiculous claims anyway? This kind of posts do not make you more credible or look intelligent, but more likely earn you infraction points and eventually a ban.

                      Please try to think before you post, because you can only edit it the first 5 minutes after that. If you do something stupid, chances are we will see it, and you'll look like a numbskull, as your most recent post will show...
                      John 20:29
                      Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

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                      • esther
                        Foul Sinner on Moderation
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 17

                        #191
                        Re: Bananas Prove God Exists

                        Numbskull is a great song.
                        *A heathen and evil LIKE you, sorry
                        I don't base my claims on anything, I just let them flow in the air like dust or bubbles.
                        You couldn't tell if something is stupid if it was looking at you in the mirror (it is.)
                        Besides, who cares about getting banned from here? And I can tell that your parents were zbonks from A-56. Editing posts is bad, anyway.

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                        • R-R-R
                          Rebuked-Repented-Reborn
                          Forum Member
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 183

                          #192
                          Re: Bananas Prove God Exists

                          Originally posted by esther View Post
                          Numbskull is a great song.
                          *A heathen and evil LIKE you, sorry
                          I don't base my claims on anything, I just let them flow in the air like dust or bubbles.
                          You couldn't tell if something is stupid if it was looking at you in the mirror (it is.)
                          Besides, who cares about getting banned from here? And I can tell that your parents were zbonks from A-56. Editing posts is bad, anyway.
                          You aren't making any sence, you're not from Belgium by any chance?
                          John 20:29
                          Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

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                          • esther
                            Foul Sinner on Moderation
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 17

                            #193
                            Re: Bananas Prove God Exists

                            I don't mean to make sense and I'm not from Belgium. Like you would have got it anyway. Numbskull is a beautiful song by Ash. As for the end, it's just made-up sci fi crap. You're not funny, but Americans generally aren't.

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                            • R-R-R
                              Rebuked-Repented-Reborn
                              Forum Member
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 183

                              #194
                              Re: Bananas Prove God Exists

                              Originally posted by esther View Post
                              I don't mean to make sense Then what are you doing here on His favourite forum? and I'm not from Belgium So are you a French homer then? That would explain quite a bit. Like you would have got it anyway. Numbskull is a beautiful song by Ash. Your musical taste is not relevant here, this a forum dedicated to the Lord! As for the end, it's just made-up sci fi crap. At least to you it is... Then again, people are known to make mistakes. You're not funny, but Americans generally aren't. Americans don't need to be funny. And neither do I.
                              .
                              John 20:29
                              Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

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                              • esther
                                Foul Sinner on Moderation
                                • Mar 2007
                                • 17

                                #195
                                Re: Bananas Prove God Exists

                                God has no favourites, we're all his pets... What do you mean, Homer? As in the critically acclaimed poet? Oh and I'm really sorry, this time I mean it I think, when I said the end I was talking about the ending of my list of complaints.

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