[True Disciple]

Re: God Hates Iceland!

But people make mistakes, right? And then it hit me. The beginning of Genesis.

In His own image. So if humans are flawed, and we were made in God's own image, then isn't God capable of mistakes? Doesn't he make errors? So isn't his faith in using humans to write the bible, which today, bares little resemblance to the original manuscripts, also open to mistakes?

You ask a reasonable question. The point is that you are overlooking an essential part of Genesis here. It is called the Fall of Man:

Genesis 2:15-17:
And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it. And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Consequently, man disobeyed:

Genesis 3:6-7:
And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.

The important part is: here man sinned, while God never sinned. The Fall of Man caused man to become imperfect, which is why man makes mistakes. God, however, does not, and His Infallibility is proclaimed in many different parts of the Bible:

2 Samuel 22:31:
As for God, his way is perfect; the word of the LORD is tried: he is a buckler to all them that trust in him.

Habakkuk 1:13:
Thou art of purer eyes than to behold evil, and canst not look on iniquity: wherefore lookest thou upon them that deal treacherously, and holdest thy tongue when the wicked devoureth the man that is more righteous than he?

Titus 1:1-3:
Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness; In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;
But hath in due times manifested his word through preaching, which is committed unto me according to the commandment of God our Saviour

Hebrews 4:15:
For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

1 Peter 2:21-22:
For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps: Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth

2 Corinthians 5:20-21:
Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

1 Peter 1:18-19:
Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;
But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot

So you see, possibly the greatest difference between God and man is that God is infallible.

And again, 2 Timothy 3:16 teaches that the Bible is the Word of God, not of man, so the question is not whether man is fallible (he certainly is) but whether God is fallible (He certainly is not). And as God is omnipotent, He is perfectly able to keep the errors of man out of His Word.

I realize that this sort of thinking is probably what you would deem heretical, irreligious and quite possibly offensive.

It may be, but I get the impression that you are a potential True Christian™, so I gladly educate you about God's Word.

But if God exists, and He made me in His image, then He intended me to be this way. With purpose, He made my mind work in a way that questions everything and takes nothing at face value.

Well, the questioning mind, as I've tried to make clear, is a result of the Fall of Man, as before that, man simply obeyed God, but afterwards his "eyes were opened," which means that man got the ability to disobey God by "critical thinking," instead of obedience. Faith is a matter of the Heart, not of the brain.

[oliver the blubbereater]

Re: God Hates Iceland!

Perhaps if God had used "picture" instead of "image" you might have understood. All this means is that God made us to look like Him.

If you want to read further, you will come across Noah's Ark. We are all now the descendants of Noah with the fallibility that goes with being merely human.

Oh i love this picture, he´s combing his hair with his fingers and teeth,
how nice .
Maby a towelhead (as you call them) translated the bible just to keep
you guys away from other people .
Today pople make pc viruses to destroy computers, maby the bible
is an old way to make a virus .
Well at least we have the gates to hell, you have the bible to throw into
it, but it dosen´t work.

[Ultra_Iceland]

Re: God Hates Iceland!

I have reason to believe most-if not all- people from iceland are homosexual

The scum will rot in hell.

the fewer part of iceland is homosexual. WOW you guys are idiots

[GlenOfTranquility]

Re: God Hates Iceland!

Thanks for the response, True Disciple. I'll mull over your post when I have a few quiet moments this evening.

I have received an infraction though, so if I have any more debatable points, you may not hear of them. But this is ok...this is not the place for debate, as pointed out, and I have no issues with that. I didn't come here to "rock the boat" merely to gain understanding.

I do appreciate your willingness to spar with me verbally, and not merely talk down or insult me.

[oliver the blubbereater]

Re: God Hates Iceland!

9. Well about the penis museum, i went there last year to see and there were many tourists there.
And what did i see there, 3 lutherans, 2 from US and 1 from Canada,
maby we should have killed them for seeing the penises.
( Canada, what a strange name, i can´t see if it means anything,
at least Iceland means something).

[Big God Denier]

Re: God Hates Iceland!

Do you believe that the Bering Straits exist, and have you ever been there?

I do believe it exists and I have been there too

Fire Island is filled with Sodomites. I regularly went there when I was a traded on AMEX in what unfortunately was a futile attempt at getting them to sign up for the B.A.S.H program. 15 long, hot, sweaty summers and not a single convert. At least I tried hard.

The part that has me confused about is why it is so close to the US of A. You'd think God would of placed close to its' sister island, new zooland. Not that I am questioning Him, mind you, just a mere insignificant observation, Jesus.

Just curious, what arguments did you use in your attempt to convert people? perhaps you could give an example?
There is nothing to be confused about, you guys are next in line for the fire and brimstone.

So... asking a valid question is mocking?

Nononon around these parts it lies closer to blasphemy than mocking

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: God Hates Iceland!

Just curious, what arguments did you use in your attempt to convert people? perhaps you could give an example?

Easy: Convert or go to HELL !!!

[Big God Denier]

Re: God Hates Iceland!

Easy: Convert or go to HELL !!!

Heh, such an argument would quite likely have hospitalized him XD nah just kidding, but such an argument would very likely get folks to turn their back to him.

[Felicity]

Re: God Hates Iceland!

@Big God Denier Why would those people turn their backs to Jesus? Do they not want to go to Heaven? #Psalm 9:17

[Big God Denier]

Re: God Hates Iceland!

@Big God Denier Why would those people turn their backs to Jesus? Do they not want to go to Heaven? #Psalm 9:17

I did mean any man who would say "Convert or go to hell" not jesus, and about turning the back to jesus I think they would accept and ignore him than turning their backs to him, in the same way most people just accept that their neighbour is there, they don't necessarily turn their backs to them just let them continue on with their lives without interfering.

[Big God Denier]

Re: God Hates Iceland!

@Big God Denier Why would those people turn their backs to Jesus? Do they not want to go to Heaven? #Psalm 9:17

I did mean any man who would say "Convert or go to hell" not jesus, and about turning the back to jesus I think they would accept and ignore him than turning their backs to him, in the same way most people just accept that their neighbour is there, they don't necessarily turn their backs to them just let them continue on with their lives without interfering. They accept that Jesus was a historical figure and leave it at that, it is not the same as turning their backs to him.

[Youth Pastor Marty]

Re: God Hates Iceland!

I did mean any man who would say "Convert or go to hell" not jesus, and about turning the back to jesus I think they would accept and ignore him than turning their backs to him, in the same way most people just accept that their neighbour is there, they don't necessarily turn their backs to them just let them continue on with their lives without interfering. They accept that Jesus was a historical figure and leave it at that, it is not the same as turning their backs to him.

You cannot both accept and ignore the Lord. It doesn't work that way. We are talking about the Bible and Jesus here, not your schoolbooks.

[Felicity]

Re: God Hates Iceland!

@Big God Denier But those men are only telling the truth! You have to choose Jesus to be allowed into Heaven. Why do they not want that? #John 14:1-4

[loveful]

Re: God Hates Iceland!

@Big God Denier Why would those people turn their backs to Jesus? Do they not want to go to Heaven? #Psalm 9:17

Well.. That's a good question. I think everyone want's to go to heaven, what ever heaven is to them. To some, it's trying to be a good person and help other people and to some it's the word-to-word bible ride. But think of it like this: if these ignorant people who call themselves "true Christians" and preach biggotry, hate and racism in the name of Jesus on these boards would go to heaven, it would become Hell. If the heaven is indeed a place for people who believe that model trains are devils work, it's not heaven, it's an insane asylum. I know this is a community and as such you try to respect your peers, and that's a good thing, having respect, but you must also understand that in your peers you have people like Rev. Jim Osborne, who clearly is nothing more than an uneducated, simple mind speaking from a hole that is located a couple of feet south (or should I say closer to Hell) than his mouth. Then there are people like True Disciple, who are actually capable of making a point and making some sense and discussing instead of just pouring hateful words regarding thing he has no knowledge about. There is a big difference. Now, I know that you people on these boards will tell me that I'll burn in Hell for saiyng that, and you're free to believe that. Me, I just pray these people with their hateful mouths will some day feel the true Love of God and repent.

Now you can look at what this so called Reverend Osborne started this thread with and ask yourself if taking advice from a man who has no idea what he is talking about is such a good idea. I suggest you look into the Bible and let it guide, instead of listening to people who are just trying to gain money and power in the name of Jesus. This man starts attacking a country he knows nothing about, posts the wrong flag, doesn't know the religious demography he is attacking, pulls ideas of countrys name out of thin air while clearly showing he doesn't know anything about said country. He goes even further by claiming that God punished Iceland with bankrupcy while having the flag of United States of America next to him while forgetting that unfortunately US budget deficit is so horrible, that even if every dollar in excistence would be used to pay the debt, it would still be like a drop in the ocean and that if China decided to claim those debts, it would be the end of USA.

All I'm saying, that it's all in the Bible, there's no need for you to follow blind, ignorant people like this. And it's ignorant people like this who cause all this trolling on these boards. I don't think most of these people who post here just to annoy people like so called Reverend wan't to go to Hell. It's just a reaction to sickness that is being spread through the hateful words of these sad, greedy people who think they have the right to tell God who he hates and why.

[Fat Rooster]

Re: God Hates Iceland!

Well.. That's a good question. I think everyone want's to go to heaven, what ever heaven is to them. To some, it's trying to be a good person and help other people and to some it's the word-to-word bible ride. But think of it like this: if these ignorant people who call themselves "true Christians" and preach biggotry, hate and racism in the name of Jesus on these boards would go to heaven, it would become Hell. If the heaven is indeed a place for people who believe that model trains are devils work, it's not heaven, it's an insane asylum. I know this is a community and as such you try to respect your peers, and that's a good thing, having respect, but you must also understand that in your peers you have people like Rev. Jim Osborne, who clearly is nothing more than an uneducated, simple mind speaking from a hole that is located a couple of feet south (or should I say closer to Hell) than his mouth. Then there are people like True Disciple, who are actually capable of making a point and making some sense and discussing instead of just pouring hateful words regarding thing he has no knowledge about. There is a big difference. Now, I know that you people on these boards will tell me that I'll burn in Hell for saiyng that, and you're free to believe that. Me, I just pray these people with their hateful mouths will some day feel the true Love of God and repent.

Now you can look at what this so called Reverend Osborne started this thread with and ask yourself if taking advice from a man who has no idea what he is talking about is such a good idea. I suggest you look into the Bible and let it guide, instead of listening to people who are just trying to gain money and power in the name of Jesus. This man starts attacking a country he knows nothing about, posts the wrong flag, doesn't know the religious demography he is attacking, pulls ideas of countrys name out of thin air while clearly showing he doesn't know anything about said country. He goes even further by claiming that God punished Iceland with bankrupcy while having the flag of United States of America next to him while forgetting that unfortunately US budget deficit is so horrible, that even if every dollar in excistence would be used to pay the debt, it would still be like a drop in the ocean and that if China decided to claim those debts, it would be the end of USA.

All I'm saying, that it's all in the Bible, there's no need for you to follow blind, ignorant people like this. And it's ignorant people like this who cause all this trolling on these boards. I don't think most of these people who post here just to annoy people like so called Reverend wan't to go to Hell. It's just a reaction to sickness that is being spread through the hateful words of these sad, greedy people who think they have the right to tell God who he hates and why.

Great words eaven for non believer like myself! In my opinion IF God exists person like me who respects other people, respects life, nature, world, respects everyone and everything and tries to do best he can to help people who needs help etc... Goes to heaven more likely than person who simply mock people, and judge every single human being exept those whos not "true believers of god". Im not so great in english so I hope everyone understood my point.