Well, my friend, you have been incompletely educated at Bible School, that is clear. In one of His Parables, Jesus said the following about his enemies:
Luke 19:26-27: For I say unto you, That unto every one which hath shall be given; and from him that hath not, even that he hath shall be taken away from him. But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
Very interesting! But we also have Mark 12:31
The second is this, 'YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.' There is no other commandment greater than these.
How do you reconcile the differences? Do you say that "this person is my neighbor and the other person isn't" and then use this as the logic behind your opinions, and their founding in Jesus's teachings?
I can't reconcile that with my own view of the message which is "everybody is your neighbor and it would be a much better world if we stopped hitting each other over the head with weapons".
How do you reconcile the differences? Do you say that "this person is my neighbor and the other person isn't" and then use this as the logic behind your opinions, and their founding in Jesus's teachings?
I can't reconcile that with my own view of the message which is "everybody is your neighbor and it would be a much better world if we stopped hitting each other over the head with weapons".
I think the confusing thing here is the Love part. Let's take a look at another Scripture Verse that speaks about "loving thy neighbour as thyself:"
Romans 13:8-10: Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
As you can see, the Bible equals "Love" here with the "fulfillment of the law." It makes clear that following the Law, and keeping God's Commandments, is what God sees as True Christian Love(tm) for your neighbour.
However, following God's Law means following all of it, the entire Bible. This also includes praying God for righteous vengeance over sinners, as King David so often did:
Psalm 109:6-10: Set thou a wicked man over him: and let Satan stand at his right hand. When he shall be judged, let him be condemned: and let his prayer become sin. Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Let his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow. Let his children be continually vagabonds, and beg: let them seek their bread also out of their desolate places.
You see, God is a God of Justice. As you can see in this thread, Iceland has sinned gravely against God, and will be judged accordingly. We do not hate Iceland. God does, as the Bible teaches that God does hate sinners, not just the sin:
Psalm 5:5: The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
Psalm 11:5: The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.
Therefore, praying for the destruction of Iceland is in no way in violation of "thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself," as we follow God's Law when we do that, which is the essence of True Christian Love(tm). I hope you understand me here.
Finally, this Passage is also interesting to notice. Jesus says here:
Luke 14:26: If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
You see, in order to be a Disciple of Christ, we are asked to actually hate other people, and even hate ourselves. Of course, when you think of it, "hate other people as you hate yourself" says the same thing as "love your neighbour as you love yourself."
So you see, the idea that we should be nice to all people indiscriminately is a huge misunderstanding of Scripture, and is in fact diametrically opposed to True Christian Love(tm). Do you understand this?
Sweet Lord Jesus,
I want to pray for those who persecute me, my Lord.
Please, treat their children as you treated those of Egypt, when they upset you! (Psalm 135:8-9)
Dash their little children against the stones for their fathers iniquity! (Psalm 137:8-9)
Hit them on the cheek, and smash out their teeth! (Psalm 3:7)
Make their death and descent into Hell swift and terrible! (Psalm 55:15)
Scatter their broken bodies over the streets of their evil cities, like Benghazi, Amsterdam, Tokyo and Mecca! (Psalm 110:6)
Praised be Your Glorious Name™.
So you see, the idea that we should be nice to all people indiscriminately is a huge misunderstanding of Scripture, and is in fact diametrically opposed to True Christian Love™. Do you understand this?
I understand how you can come to this logic, and how you see that it is logically correct and justifies your thinking, certainly.
But I do have another question on this, which I suppose you could answer with "God would not allow the bible to be wrong" or something along those lines. I will ask it anyway, as your answer may surprise me much like your previous post.
Romans is the letter by Paul, as he passes through Rome on the way to preach in Spain if I remember correctly. The letter is essentially Paul's own views on the teachings of Jesus, rather than say, a direct quotation on events such as those found in Mark.
So I take it as Paul's own specific teachings, rather than those of Jesus. Are Paul's words, thoughts and motivations to be taken to be the same as those of Jesus? Was perhaps Paul not motivated to write Romans in a specific language given the nature of the situation in Rome at the time, to further his cause for preaching Christianity?
Or is it enough that it can be assumed that because of the mere fact that it is in the bible, it is the truth, and therefor, beyond question?
It's simple. The Bible is based on fact because it is inspired by God. We know God directed the Bible because the Bible tells us. That is why we listen to it and let it be our guide in life.
We have had this conversation before in this thread. Iceland is full of Ice, hence "Ice-land". Why would they name a place that is green "Iceland" and a place full of ice "Greenland"? That doesn't make any sense. Any other place in the world named after geography is accurate. Miami Beach is on a beach, not in the mountains. Desert Hot Springs in California is in....well, the desert. And so on.
Well well the Rev is back and still not admitting his mistake of the flag .
How do you know God directed the bible, any proof.
Why shouldn´t you belive in the coran, they say that is the word of god too.
If i found a book like the bible in a language that noone has spoken for centuries i could translate is any way i wanted and get people to belive in it, maby you too
Well well the Rev is back and still not admitting his mistake of the flag .
How do you know God directed the bible, any proof.
Why shouldn´t you belive in the coran, they say that is the word of god too.
If i found a book like the bible in a language that noone has spoken for centuries i could translate is any way i wanted and get people to belive in it, maby you too
Romans is the letter by Paul, as he passes through Rome on the way to preach in Spain if I remember correctly. The letter is essentially Paul's own views on the teachings of Jesus, rather than say, a direct quotation on events such as those found in Mark.
So I take it as Paul's own specific teachings, rather than those of Jesus. Are Paul's words, thoughts and motivations to be taken to be the same as those of Jesus? Was perhaps Paul not motivated to write Romans in a specific language given the nature of the situation in Rome at the time, to further his cause for preaching Christianity?
Or is it enough that it can be assumed that because of the mere fact that it is in the bible, it is the truth, and therefor, beyond question?
Well, in fact, everything in the Bible is indeed Truth(tm), as we can read here:
2 Timothy 3:16: All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
So, we must follow all of Scripture, not just the parts that supposedly "weren't written by God Himself."
Additionally, think for a moment about the situation if this wouldn't be so. How could we then distinguish between God's Word and the words of men? If that were true, it would be a subjective matter what is God's Word, as you could just follow only the parts you like, and still call yourself a Christian. Of course, this is ridiculous, as God's Word definitely is Objective, and is not vastly different among different people, solely because those people themselves hold different opinions.
So false christians who claim that we shouldn't take the entire Bible as Word of God, besides ignoring 2 Timothy 3:16, also hold a logically untenable position, as there is no objective way in that case to decide which Scripture to interpret as Word of God, and which as words of man.
And about the infallibility of the Bible: God wrote It, and He is omnipotent. I would think He is able to keep errors out of His Bible, wouldn't you?
Sweet Lord Jesus,
I want to pray for those who persecute me, my Lord.
Please, treat their children as you treated those of Egypt, when they upset you! (Psalm 135:8-9)
Dash their little children against the stones for their fathers iniquity! (Psalm 137:8-9)
Hit them on the cheek, and smash out their teeth! (Psalm 3:7)
Make their death and descent into Hell swift and terrible! (Psalm 55:15)
Scatter their broken bodies over the streets of their evil cities, like Benghazi, Amsterdam, Tokyo and Mecca! (Psalm 110:6)
Praised be Your Glorious Name™.
And about the infallibility of the Bible: God wrote It, and He is omnipotent. I would think He is able to keep errors out of His Bible, wouldn't you?
As I said, I sort of expected this to be your answer. While I was standing in line to buy my lunch, I was thinking about how God apparently makes his will known through humans, hence the bible, which was written by people.
But people make mistakes, right? And then it hit me. The beginning of Genesis.
Originally posted by Genesis 1:27
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
In His own image. So if humans are flawed, and we were made in God's own image, then isn't God capable of mistakes? Doesn't he make errors? So isn't his faith in using humans to write the bible, which today, bares little resemblance to the original manuscripts, also open to mistakes?
I realize that this sort of thinking is probably what you would deem heretical, irreligious and quite possibly offensive.
But if God exists, and He made me in His image, then He intended me to be this way. With purpose, He made my mind work in a way that questions everything and takes nothing at face value.
As I said, I sort of expected this to be your answer. While I was standing in line to buy my lunch, I was thinking about how God apparently makes his will known through humans, hence the bible, which was written by people.
But people make mistakes, right? And then it hit me. The beginning of Genesis.
In His own image. So if humans are flawed, and we were made in God's own image, then isn't God capable of mistakes? Doesn't he make errors? So isn't his faith in using humans to write the bible, which today, bares little resemblance to the original manuscripts, also open to mistakes?
I realize that this sort of thinking is probably what you would deem heretical, irreligious and quite possibly offensive.
But if God exists, and He made me in His image, then He intended me to be this way. With purpose, He made my mind work in a way that questions everything and takes nothing at face value.
[...]In His own image. So if humans are flawed, and we were made in God's own image, then isn't God capable of mistakes?
Perhaps if God had used "picture" instead of "image" you might have understood. All this means is that God made us to look like Him.
If you want to read further, you will come across Noah's Ark. We are all now the descendants of Noah with the fallibility that goes with being merely human.
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“We must reassert that the essence of Christianity is the love of obedience to God’s Laws and that how that complete obedience is used or implemented does not concern us.”
Perhaps if God had used "picture" instead of "image" you might have understood. All this means is that God made us to look like Him.
If you want to read further, you will come across Noah's Ark. We are all now the descendants of Noah with the fallibility that goes with being merely human.
But "image" actually means more than just about the visual representation though. Why not say "and God made man to look upon as you would he" or something equally specific? All I'm saying that as one of the opening passages in the Bible, it's quite open to interpretation depending on your existing views.
I don't like going into the meta-mechanics of the meaning of a word, but 'image' means far more than just an optical representation. It's only since the advent of TV's and computers that we've come to only associate the word with such a narrow meaning.
But back in the days when the bible as we know it today, was being compiled (around the 13th century I think) and edited from the original manuscripts, 'image' would also mean "an embodiment" or "a copy" or even "a counterpart".
If you want it to mean something that is merely a physical representation, then that's fair enough.
The Icelandic Flag mocks the cross by turning it sideways. Satanists mock Jesus by turning a cross upside down. This is very similar. This is proof that Iceland hates Jesus!
Iceland is a Scandinavian country, located in the North Atlantic ocean. Nothing much happens there, but it still cannot escape the wrath of our Lord. Let us look at the many reasons why this nation offends our Lord.
They are Godless. Most Icelanders are atheists or worship pagan Viking gods. The few Christians are Lutherans, who are hellbound anyways. There is not a single Baptist church in Iceland!
God cursed this land with geography. Iceland is mostly ice, hence the name "Iceland". There is also a lot of volcanic and geyser activity, due to the close proximity of Hell. We know for a fact that Hell is underneath the Earth, and Iceland is one of the closest places on the surface to Hell. You can look at Iceland as a gateway between Hell and Earth.
God punished their economy by bankrupting them. While they were once successful, the Lord sought to destroy them economically. But do they learn from their punishments? No.
The most famous Icelander is Bjork, who is a disgusting race-mixing harlot who dresses up in strange apparel (Zeph 1:8) and fornicates with negroes (Ezra 9:2). She is a national folk hero.
They elect women as prime ministers even though the Bible specifically forbids women from ruling over men! 1st Timothy 2:12But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
They are weak pacifists and don't have an army. They have universal health care. In other words, it's Obama's utopia.
Iceland wants to destroy the traditional family so they've legalized gay marriage! They create laws to mock God! Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
Iceland promotes sorcery and witchcraft. They worship Satan and perform rituals that animate trolls and ogres and other demons to do their bidding. They even have a museum dedicated to their Satan worship!
But not even that museum could offend the decency of True Christians™ like the National Penis Museum. Yes, Iceland has erected a building glorifying the penis! What a sick sex-obsessed heathen society.
All people of Iceland need to repent and accept Jesus Christ as their savior! Until then, they will suffer and will burn in Hell along with other God-mocking countries like Australia, England, Scotland, Denmark, Germany, France, Italy, Hungary, Russia, China, Japan, Korea, Mexico, Canada, Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Spain, Portugal, Norway, Sweden, Ukraine, Romania, Croatia, Serbia, Ethiopia, Nigeria, Somalia, Sudan, South Africa, New Zealand, Vietnam, Cambodia, Guatemala, Algeria, Egypt, Saudia Arabia, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Qatar, etc.
I'm gonna prof you wrong
This is the norwegian flag you fuckin moron
1. we picked up christianity in the year 1000
2. ok we do have a lot of volcanos & so does hawai we are not covered with ice except for the winter greenland is covered with ice & its called GREEN land so don't think about the name.
3. umm why punish us what did we ever do wrong here.
4. oh no she is not our hero & we have anita briem wich I think is getting more succesfull.
5. are you just desprete for being as offensive as you can.
6. Obama is a genius, we don't need an army so why have one & universal health care is good.
7. there are many places in the U.S where gay marriage is allowed.
8. umm I don't know about you bot trolls were believed in the old times.
9. ok this one I'm with you I don't know why we have penis museum.
First reserch the country before you talk about it you are the most idiot in the world
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