[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: Who Does God Hate?

Don't you fellow white males love to get on here and spread hate.

You do realise that this is the most racist thing I have ever heard?

Putting the white man down seems to be de rigueur, these days

YIC

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Who Does God Hate?

Added

"Defense Industry Workers, Vets and other lazy moochers"
"IRS auditors and other reverse racists"
"Society Security Retires (get a job grandpa)"

to the list

I considered adding "Bronies" to the list but the point it to obvious.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Who Does God Hate?

You do realise that this is the most racist thing I have ever heard?

Putting the white man down seems to be de rigueur, these days

YIC

Sad but true. The racism and the hate in this country towards white males is unbelievable.

[I Am A Perverted Homosexual :)]

Re: Who Does God Hate?

God hates totalitarian, controlling, unwilling to listen Jesus freaks like you.

[Didymus Much]

Re: Who Does God Hate?

God hates totalitarian, controlling, unwilling to listen Jesus freaks like you.

No Scripture, no proof.

[Unworthy Sinner]

Re: Who Does God Hate?

2 things disprove what you posted:

1.)

Proverbs 6:

16There are six things which the LORD hates,
Yes, seven which are an abomination to Him:

17Haughty eyes, a lying tongue,
And hands that shed innocent blood,

18A heart that devises wicked plans,
Feet that run rapidly to evil,

19A false witness who utters lies,
And one who spreads strife among brothers.



It states that all 7 of the ones listed "are an abomination to Him", it also only states that he hates 6 of them, and doesn't specify which ones, so you, me, everyone on this forum, and every other living being in the universe, apart from the holy trinity and possibly the angels, do not know which 6 of these 7 are hated upon by the Lord from the verse that you posted.

2.) Also you stated something along the lines that he wants to kill them any chance he gets I think, I believe this to be untrue because the bible states that:

2 Peter 3:9
"The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance."

[Pim Pendergast]

Re: Who Does God Hate?

2 things disprove what you posted:

It states that all 7 of the ones listed "are an abomination to Him", it also only states that he hates 6 of them, and doesn't specify which ones, so you, me, everyone on this forum, and every other living being in the universe, apart from the holy trinity and possibly the angels, do not know which 6 of these 7 are hated upon by the Lord from the verse that you posted.

God hates all seven things on the list. Solomon used a Hebrew idiom meaning, "Here is an example of six or seven things God hates and finds abominable." A similar idiom is used in Ps 90:10.

The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away.

In other words, man lives about 70-80 years. But there are many more things God hates.

2.) Also you stated something along the lines that he wants to kill them any chance he gets I think, I believe this to be untrue because the bible states that:

2 Peter 3:9
"The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance."

Explain how you reconcile your interpretation of 2 Pet 3:9 with Romans 9:20-24 and Prov 16:4, which tell us God made the wicked for the sole purpose of destruction?

[Unworthy Sinner]

Re: Who Does God Hate?

The verse I quoted said that "God is not willing for one to perish" meaning that he wishes for all to go to heaven in my opinion. We have a loving God, who does in fact serve out tough love to those who exalt themselves and need to be rebuked properly, but scripture states that those who humble themselves will be exalted, and the Son's of God, aka the workers for peace according to the beatitudes, I believe he does not have many quarrels with. Also something I forgot to mention was that the scriptures he posted did not say anything about God hating the people having the things mentioned, but the actual things mentioned (example: lying tongues, feet that are quick to run into evil, haughty eyes) not the people themselves. He wishes for the people to come to repentance, as mentioned in 2 Peter 3:9, not for the self-righteous to attempt to affirm their faith through the wicked's deeds.

As I was taught when I was young, "Love the sinner, but hate the sin". All people are victims of demonic oppression and temptation, and should not be condemned for such, because we will be judged and condemned in the same manner and potency that we dish it out. Also, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone".

I have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and stand firm in my beliefs. I also do not wish to portray a condescending and/or condemning/judgmental tone. But I speak in truth.

[Unworthy Sinner]

Re: Who Does God Hate?

Also, I am not unsaved trash, I Love my lord and savior Jesus, and no one on this site, or in the universe can separate me from his love. Nor is it healthy to portray the ideas that the church determines anybody's fate. Jesus himself, in his glory, spoke out against the Pharasees who blocked the paths of those trying to go to heaven, luckily I am not phased because I know who I am in Christ without anybody's opinion, but I believe the Lord would want this organization to treat their visitor's more kindly and with hospitality.

[Basilissa]

Re: Who Does God Hate?

The verse I quoted said that "God is not willing for one to perish" meaning that he wishes for all to go to heaven in my opinion.

Except for those He created with sole purpose of going to Hell (Proverbs 16:4), and He also intentionally misleads some people (Thessalonians 2:11).

We have a loving God, who does in fact serve out tough love

GLORY!!!

Also something I forgot to mention was that the scriptures he posted did not say anything about God hating the people having the things mentioned, but the actual things mentioned (example: lying tongues, feet that are quick to run into evil, haughty eyes) not the people themselves.

Wrong. God hates heathens so much He wants them all dead, including elderly, women, and babies (see e.g. Deuteronomy 20:16).

As I was taught when I was young, "Love the sinner, but hate the sin".

Wrong. Read the Bible. Examples off top of my head: Psalm 5:5-6, 137:9, Matthew 13:38-42, Hosea 13:16.

I have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and stand firm in my beliefs.

You might need to check yourself for schizophrenia. That voice you hear in your head is not Jesus. Why would He speak to an unsaved trash who HASN'T EVEN READ THE HOLY BIBLE?????

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: Who Does God Hate?

Also, I am not unsaved trash, I Love my lord and savior Jesus, and no one on this site, or in the universe can separate me from his love. Nor is it healthy to portray the ideas that the church determines anybody's fate. Jesus himself, in his glory, spoke out against the Pharasees who blocked the paths of those trying to go to heaven, luckily I am not phased because I know who I am in Christ without anybody's opinion, but I believe the Lord would want this organization to treat their visitor's more kindly and with hospitality.

I think why a True Christian™ would be perplexed by your posts is that you seem to think of Jesus as a nice gentleman who loves everyone.

My question to you is thusly onefold: when Jesus send whole swathes of humanity to Hell for eternal torture what does that tell us about His character?

The Jesus I know is the Jesus of the Bible: not one created by fluffy minded liberal vicars who only want the get bums on pews. Jesus is a stern master who promises eternal paradise in Heaven for obedience to His Word.

What version of Jesus do you worship? The Jesus of the Bible (who is God) or the 21st Century PR spin version that is so far removed for Him that it may as well be Big Bird from TV?

YIC

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Who Does God Hate?

[Biblically inaccurate ramblings deleted] I believe the Lord would want this organization to treat their visitor's more kindly and with hospitality.

Matthew 10:14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.
Matthew 10:15 Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.

2nd Corinthians 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
2nd Corinthians 6:15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?

It sounds to me as if you are nothing more or less than one of those abominations who invent and construct their own idolatrous god from selected passages that He has given us, and, more to the point, that you desire the company of those in Sodom.

Though the path you tread is filled with stones and tares, there is yet time to hear His True Word and repent.

I will pray for your enlightenment.

[Pim Pendergast]

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Also something I forgot to mention was that the scriptures he posted did not say anything about God hating the people having the things mentioned, but the actual things mentioned (example: lying tongues, feet that are quick to run into evil, haughty eyes) not the people themselves. He wishes for the people to come to repentance, as mentioned in 2 Peter 3:9, not for the self-righteous to attempt to affirm their faith through the wicked's deeds. As I was taught when I was young, "Love the sinner, but hate the sin".

You would have us believe God doesn't hate the people who do the things mentioned in Proverbs 6:16-19; He only hates their eyes, tongues, hands, hearts and feet. You are ignoring the fact that these body parts belong to the sinner and that "heart" in this context means "soul." You are are also ignoring verse 19, which says God hates a false witness (a person) and he who sows discord.

Prov 6:19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

And you think God hates the sin but loves the sinner? If that were the case, wouldn't He burn sins in hell for eternity instead of sinners?

The verse I quoted said that "God is not willing for one to perish" meaning that he wishes for all to go to heaven in my opinion. We have a loving God, who does in fact serve out tough love to those who exalt themselves and need to be rebuked properly, but scripture states that those who humble themselves will be exalted, and the Son's of God, aka the workers for peace according to the beatitudes, I believe he does not have many quarrels with.

So you make no attempt to reconcile your interpretation of 2 Pet 3:9 with Prov 16:4 or Rom 9:20-24. You just ignore the last two passages completely.

All people are victims of demonic oppression and temptation, and should not be condemned for such, because we will be judged and condemned in the same manner and potency that we dish it out. Also, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone".

You seem to be blaming sin on demons, but even if there were no demons to tempt people, they would still sin because the human heart is by nature evil, and sinners are incapable of doing good.

Jer 13:23 Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil.

Jer 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

[Unworthy Sinner]

Re: Who Does God Hate?

I first want to thank everyone who says they will pray for me, and I am praying for you all as well, it does not bring joy to me to see you all with such hatred towards other men, especially those who disagree with you.

I believe every word of the Bible, and I know that I don't have to know every letter of it to enter the Kingdom of God. I do not turn away knowledge of the Bible, I just do not stress myself out over it. If you all believe that you have to know every word of the Bible you are just making it hard on yourselves and others. I pray for you all's disires for power over other human beings, but it feels as if all of you want me to go to hell, which will not happen as my name is written in the Lambs Book of life. I do not disagree with any of the Bible verses any of you have posted, I agree with the entire Bible and believe since Jesus clarified that it is the truth, and I believe Jesus to be the truth, that the Old Testament, AS WELL AS THE NEW TESTAMENT is the truth. I am simply saying that you all take it out of context, I will say again, I know where I am, and to the person who said I am not talking to Jesus, you should really watch how you treat God's children, I know who I am, and no words or actions can lead me away from the limitless amount of hope I find in God.

to the Doctor, I worship the King of Kings and Lord of the Bible, the son of the Almighty one and only God (explained simply in 1 John 4:8).

The only reason I am here on Earth is to do God's work, and I am not in Hell at the moment, which means I have a chance to do God's will which is the only reason I am registered on this site. I believe it is God's work to show you all that you should keep Jesus's commandment listed in John 13:34-35.

If any of you do not know what love is, first off, it is God, according to 1 John 4:8, also, it is literally defined in 1 Corinthians 13, also defining God, since God is love. I ask you all to replace the word Love with the word God, because, once again, God is Love 1 John 4:8

[Didymus Much]

Re: Who Does God Hate?

...I believe every word of the Bible...

Except for James 2:10, apparently.

...and I know that I don't have to know every letter of it to enter the Kingdom of God...

But you do have to obey them all (James 2:10). Good luck doing that without knowing what's required (i.e. every last word of it).