[Basilissa]

Re: 'Paradise' discovered next to major Israeli road - It's the Garden of Eden!

Tanzania and tte Euphrates are close actually about 7,015.1 km to be exact

That's almost double the distance between New York and San Francisco, and roughly the distance between New York and Moscow. Does that look close to you?

[OneFailure]

Re: 'Paradise' discovered next to major Israeli road - It's the Garden of Eden!

I don't buy you are so stupid. I think you are going for troll of the year.
It is too early in the year for that, boy, come back in November and we'll see.

I'm not stupid

[OneFailure]

Re: 'Paradise' discovered next to major Israeli road - It's the Garden of Eden!

That's almost double the distance between New York and San Francisco, and roughly the distance between New York and Moscow. Does that look close to you?

They are closer some other places

[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

Re: 'Paradise' discovered next to major Israeli road - It's the Garden of Eden!

By your logic, Hungary could be where the Garden of Eden was. Or maybe the area of Sorata in Bolivia. Or maybe Greenland? They all are "near" Tigris and Euphrates in the same sense as Tanzania is.

Tanzania is the closest than all of those.

If you think that Tanzania is closer to the Euphrates than Hungary is, you probably need a better map.

Tanzania and tte Euphrates are close actually about 7,015.1 km to be exact

I already told you here that both of the Lake Magadis are more than 4,000 miles from the Euphrates. Why do you feel the need to take credit for information that other people have provided? Also, why use kilometers? Real Americans don't use kilometers. And if you say something is "about" 7,015.1 km away then (1) that is not close and (2) you cannot then add "to be exact".

But enough of this. Do you not find that sitting in front of a keyboard all day makes you lose muscle tone for the ballet dancing?

[Isabella White]

Re: 'Paradise' discovered next to major Israeli road - It's the Garden of Eden!

If you think that Tanzania is closer to the Euphrates than Hungary is, you probably need a better map.



I already told you here that both of the Lake Magadis are more than 4,000 miles from the Euphrates. Why do you feel the need to take credit for information that other people have provided? Also, why use kilometers? Real Americans don't use kilometers. And if you say something is "about" 7,015.1 km away then (1) that is not close and (2) you cannot then add "to be exact".

But enough of this. Do you not find that sitting in front of a keyboard all day makes you lose muscle tone for the ballet dancing?

Oh, dear Sister Joanna: Did you notice that Miss One Failure is now quarantined? The account description reads "aims to be the village idiot". HA HA HA HA. I haven't laughed so hard since 1947. A blessed day to you, Dear. Sincerely, Isabella W.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: 'Paradise' discovered next to major Israeli road - It's the Garden of Eden!

Tanzania is near eurphrates,

You have demons in your brain. It's miles away.

it doesnt need to be exactly close to eurphrates for it to be the garden of eden

Well, there is God saying that Eden is near the Euphrates, and you saying it isn't... Do you consider my choice of whom to believe to be a difficult one?


Wikipedia informs me

The lake water, which is a dense sodium carbonatebrine, precipitates vast quantities of the mineral trona (sodium sesquicarbonate). In places, the salt is up to 40 m thick. The lake is recharged mainly by saline hot springs (temperatures up to 86 °C) that discharge into alkaline "lagoons" around the lake margins, there being little surface runoff in this arid region.

which does not really seem like Paradise, more the entrance to the Pits of Hell.

[MitzaLizalor]

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I just looked up the etymology of Mesopotamia

It seems to have a couple of usages and origins, albeit one of them derivative

https://www.etymonline.com/word/Mesopotamia

from Greek … literally "a country between two rivers," from fem. of mesopotamos, from mesos "middle" + potamos "river" etc.

used in the sense of "anything which gives irrational or inexplicable comfort to the hearer," based on etc.

Against this we need to set evidence from someone unaware of a very well established claim from Bahrain, presumably based on rivers comprising the Persian Gulf or some such. It's not true, but it IS a claim which no-one visiting Bahrain could be unaware of AND FURTHERMORE for any "expert" in locations of The Garden Of Eden surely Bahrain's claim would be one of the first they encountered?

Yes. It would.

[Collinslaw]

Re: 'Paradise' discovered next to major Israeli road - It's the Garden of Eden!

I was reminded when I saw that lovely picture how fortunate we, as Christians, are not to have degenerated. Jesus foreknew us and ensured that we remained fit for perfection just as Adam had been perfect, and his wife who when they were married did not have a name. The animals cared for by Abel were already domesticated and later, when plants had degenerated into thorns & thistles and death came into world which includes being eaten, placid creatures such as hyaenas and scorpions became thorns & thistles themselves. Stinging. Biting. Eating one another raw. Many humans became savage, rampant, unrestrained. "Woo woo woo!" they shouted running around shiny. Swivelling their eyeballs at anything considering grass skirts as a future option. They were probably shiny themselves. What a horrid scene!

Jesus refers to His elect (us) as sheep. We have been spared the degeneration into savagery as though we are domesticated, just like those animals so many years ago.

Hallelujah, to God be all Glory. Even among the horrible set of people, God has called some people however few to be His Children so that no race is without excuse that there was no witness yea even like them who confessed the truth about Jesus Christ to them and many witnesses. Glory!

[MitzaLizalor]

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You seem to me missing a fundamental point.

Originally Posted by Collinslaw
Hallelujah, to God be all Glory. Even among...ONLY FROM...the horrible set of people, God has called some people however few to be His Children so that no race is without excuse that there was no witness yea even like them who confessed the truth about Jesus Christ to them and many witnesses. Glory!

The highlighted emendation [ABOVE] brings this out. .ALL. people are horrible, beyond horrible, born already vile and repugnant to God, deserving of unremitting torture. Christians are not perfect by virtue of not hailing from "the horrible set of people" but because God decided that some people would be Redeemed. You are correct to say that few people come into that category but there is only .ONE. unsaved type. Revolting.

Matthew 22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

[Scoutman03]

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But... I though fossils were made to test your faith? Hm. I guess since NOW we're counting fossils as actual proof (Thank God) Dinosaurs were on Earth and long ago humans showed closer resemblance with monkeys based on bone structure.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: 'Paradise' discovered next to major Israeli road - It's the Garden of Eden!

THE PHONIC METHOD

Now that we've learned how to tell one sound for another, here's a new word with 2 sounds.

fos - sil

We join them together to make a new word

fossil

Can you find this word anywhere in the thread?

hint: it appears 2 (two) times

[Basilissa]

Re: 'Paradise' discovered next to major Israeli road - It's the Garden of Eden!

But... I though fossils were made to test your faith? Hm. I guess since NOW we're counting fossils as actual proof (Thank God) Dinosaurs were on Earth

Dear, science can be used as evidence only when it confirms what the Bible says. When fossils can be attributed to Great Flood (such as, the Great Permian Extinction), that's great news. When fossils are dated with potassium-argon or other ways of dating and come up with outrageously early dates, that's fake news.

and long ago humans showed closer resemblance with monkeys based on bone structure.

You mean, like having tails? Kid, you are screwed up even more than the scientists, they talk only about ape-like, not monkey-like, early hominid ancestors of Homo sapiens sapiens!

[Scoutman03]

Re: 'Paradise' discovered next to major Israeli road - It's the Garden of Eden!

Dear, science can be used as evidence only when it confirms what the Bible says. When fossils can be attributed to Great Flood (such as, the Great Permian Extinction), that's great news. When fossils are dated with potassium-argon or other ways of dating and come up with outrageously early dates, that's fake news.

You mean, like having tails? Kid, you are screwed up even more than the scientists, they talk only about ape-like, not monkey-like, early hominid ancestors of Homo sapiens sapiens!

So, You're telling me. It's only true when it fits YOUR agenda? And yes. Tails. That's why we have a tailbone. Through possible evolution, we lost the tail due to it no longer being needed. Human biology.

[Basilissa]

Re: 'Paradise' discovered next to major Israeli road - It's the Garden of Eden!

So, You're telling me. It's only true when it fits YOUR agenda? And yes. Tails. That's why we have a tailbone. Through possible evolution, we lost the tail due to it no longer being needed. Human biology.

You are still missing the point, which is, that scientists claim that early hominins were closely related to apes (these are primates without tails), not monkeys. That's why both apes and hominins are both classified as hominids.

So if you want to talk about "possible evolution" related to loosing the tail "because no longer needed" (which, by the way, shows your utter lack of understanding of the evolutionary theory you are pretending to defend), you have to talk about it in relation to the early ancestor of hominins and apes. Not as something that separates hominins from other hominids.

Geesh, why am I even trying to explain this to you?! Just abandon these stupid scientific theories - that's what they all are, just theories, not fact! (Yes, even the theory of gravity).

[Scoutman03]

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You are still missing the point, which is, that scientists claim that early hominins were closely related to apes (these are primates without tails), not monkeys. That's why both apes and hominins are both classified as hominids.

So if you want to talk about "possible evolution" related to loosing the tail "because no longer needed" (which, by the way, shows your utter lack of understanding of the evolutionary theory you are pretending to defend), you have to talk about it in relation to the early ancestor of hominins and apes. Not as something that separates hominins from other hominids.

Geesh, why am I even trying to explain this to you?! Just abandon these stupid scientific theories - that's what they all are, just theories, not fact! (Yes, even the theory of gravity).

Apes and monkeys are both primates. Humans are primates. Humans and chimps are the closest when it comes to genes. Now, I did and go look into it because this stuff is interesting to learn and read about. Our tailbone, in fact, is from when we had a tail in the womb, although it disappears before we are born. https://www.seeker.com/how-humans-lo...129791485.html. I admit, I was wrong and now I know more about the topic. Turns out, chimps are the last common ancestor with apes and humans. Interesting, no? But wait, there's more! Scientists may have found another common ancestor with a fossil. https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...-looked-liked/ read if you would like. Gravity is a real thing by the way. The Earth is round. Physics, math, and photos were taken. Hell, go on a hot air balloon ride. You go far up enough you can start to seen the curve! I've been on one and saw it for myself. I suggest you do the same. (I KNOW these links are going to be taken down, but ok.)