[Didymus Much]

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...martin luther took four books out of the bible completely, he also translated it wrong from latin to english.

So the Bible was originally in Latin?

You really have drank the koolaid.

[James Hutchins]

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well christians didn't exist when the world was created, they were jewish. there was no christianity until jesus came. also, i suppose i can't complain for being persacuted cause we definetly didn't get fed to lions, or crucified on the roads in china, or hung from railroad tracks in mexico. and martin luther took four books out of the bible completely, he also translated it wrong from latin to english.

No friend, God/Jesus/The Holy Ghost are Christians. Being God created everything (look it up, it is in Genesis), Christianity began on Earth at the time of Creation. Furthermore, it is the penny pinching joos that strung up Jesus on the cross. Read your Bible, it is an amazing story!
I am sure Martin Luther tried to take four books from the library. Fortunately, we have good Sheriffs.

[Redeemed Papist]

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well christians didn't exist when the world was created, they were jewish. there was no christianity until jesus came. also, i suppose i can't complain for being persacuted cause we definetly didn't get fed to lions, or crucified on the roads in china, or hung from railroad tracks in mexico. and martin luther took four books out of the bible completely, he also translated it wrong from latin to english.

Wow! Thanks for pointing out Christianity couldn't have existed before Christ. We didn't know. You, sir, are a theological genius.

What difference does any of that make to the wonder of Christ's temporary death for your sins? Why does that mean you aren't going to burn in Hell because you are a wretched sinner?

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

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well christians didn't exist when the world was created, they were jewish.there was no christianity until jesus came.

This is a simple out-and-out lie. Jesus was there before the World began. Christianity was the real deal.

2nd Timothy 1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began ,

Ephesians 1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

Them Kikes didn't get The Message, that's why there are hundreds of prophets in the OT. Eventually, God sent Himself (Jesus) to sort things out.

also, i suppose i can't complain for being persacuted cause we definetly didn't get fed to lions, or crucified on the roads in china, or hung from railroad tracks in mexico

.You're not persecuted, God doesn't persecute asswipes; He condemns you wholesale.

martin luther took four books out of the bible completely, he also translated it wrong from latin to english.

Martin Luther was a crypto-catlick.

[catholicpartyboy]

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your avoiding the fact that martin luther took books out of the bible, and no it wasn't written in latin, it was translated into latin from greek and Aramaic, to latin. luther then translated it into englesh and rather very poorly. also, i don't understand why catholics, like myself, are hated so. explain to me why? so i may debunk your raddical theorys.

[Alphonse Alban]

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martin luther took four books out of the bible completely, he also translated it wrong from latin to english.

Are you some sort of comedian? It's funny, I have to give you that but before next time you start thinking of giving out such claims, you might want to check out few things. Such as Martin Luther were German and he translated his bible from Greek and Hebrew to German. Not from Latin and not to English.

your avoiding the fact that martin luther took books out of the bible,

So? Do you think we are lutherans?

[Didymus Much]

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your avoiding the fact that martin luther took books out of the bible, and no it wasn't written in latin, it was translated into latin from greek and Aramaic, to latin. luther then translated it into englesh and rather very poorly...

Wrong, wronger, and wrongerer.

"The Luther Bible is a German language Bible translation from Hebrew and ancient Greek by Martin Luther, of which the New Testament was published in 1522 and the complete Bible, containing the Old and New Testaments and Apocrypha, in 1534..."
from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luther_Bible

... also, i don't understand why catholics, like myself, are hated so. explain to me why? so i may debunk your raddical theorys.

No one here hates Catholics, so get that chip off your shoulder.

You're pitied for your gullibility and refusal to face facts.

[James Hutchins]

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your avoiding the fact that martin luther took books out of the bible, and no it wasn't written in latin, it was translated into latin from greek and Aramaic, to latin. luther then translated it into englesh and rather very poorly. also, i don't understand why catholics, like myself, are hated so. explain to me why? so i may debunk your raddical theorys.

Why Roman Catholic Papists Are NOT Christians

There you go, my misguided friend! No one hates you, it just seems that way because of the lies you people spread as well as to priest raping of choir boys. It does bother some people.

[catholicpartyboy]

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all bibles were written latin until the invention of the printing press, luther was living in england, and translated it to englesh. also, i suppose you know what exactly god is thinking to say he doesn't pursacute catholics. i also dont think god persacutes anyone, since he is god, i think he loved everyone. and evil people persacute.

[Alphonse Alban]

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all bibles were written latin until the invention of the printing press.

No, they weren't. Do you think Martin Luther has anything to do with the KJV 1611 bible?

[James Hutchins]

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all bibles were written latin until the invention of the printing press, luther was living in england, and translated it to englesh. also, i suppose you know what exactly god is thinking to say he doesn't pursacute catholics. i also dont think god persacutes anyone, since he is god, i think he loved everyone. and evil people persacute.

Friend, are you on the drugs? Multiple people have provided you with irrefutable proof yet you prattle on and on and on.
John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

1st John 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

Romans 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

If in doubt, read the followng:

1st Corinthians 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
1st Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
1st Corinthians 1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
1st Corinthians 1:20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?

1st Corinthians 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
1st Corinthians 1:24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
1st Corinthians 1:25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
1st Corinthians 1:26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
1st Corinthians 1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

1st Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
1st Corinthians 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

1st Corinthians 3:18 Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.
1st Corinthians 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
1st Corinthians 3:20 And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.

Jude 1:16 These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.
Jude 1:17 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
Jude 1:18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
Jude 1:19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.

[Didymus Much]

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all bibles were written latin until the invention of the printing press, luther was living in england, and translated it to englesh...

Welcome to the internet. A few facts of life here need to be restated:

- If you claim something, cite your sources (as I've done above to refute your "Luther translated the [incomplete] Bible from Latin to English" bullshit).

- Likewise, if you refute something, cite your sources.

- If you wish to be taken seriously, calling yourself "catholicboss" (unless you're Joseph Alosius Ratzinger) doesn't help.

...i also dont think god persacutes anyone, since he is god, i think he loved everyone...

So why is He going to send the vast majority of mankind to Hell (according to the Bible; you might try reading it sometime)?

[Mary Etheldreda]

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i also dont think god persacutes anyone, since he is god, i think he loved everyone. and evil people persacute.

And the event surrounding Noah's Ark was what, a swim party for all God's friends?

[MitzaLizalor]

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If you wish to be taken seriously, calling yourself "catholicboss"

It might not be so bad if the comments made any sense. Not that Ratzinger makes any sense in the first place. He can't even get his own source material straight! Among heretics the Thomasines at least adhere to some (imaginary) principle of scepticism, as you are probably aware. These papists on the other hand seem incapable of adhering to anything at all (except choirboys) (do catholics have choirboys?) for example:

all Bibles were written latin until the invention of the printing press

What about Chinese Bibles?

it [Christianity] was made legal by him [Constantine]. before then CATHOLICS were being persacuted. also, your religion [we are Baptists, of course] was invented by martin luther ..etc

Let's have a look at a source - I'll use your own "New Advent" encyclopædia because in your warped system of thought it probably flags up as "reliable" — it isn't: it's catholic. However it does give a date for Luther which you might accept.

Martin Luther
Leader of the great religious revolt of the sixteenth century in Germany; born at Eisleben, 10 November, 1483; died at Eisleben, 18 February, 1546. source

Baptists already existed at the time of Jesus and are referred to in The New Testament. If it were not so there would be no Hellenistic word for "Baptist" — there is; it occurs here:

MATTHEW CHAPTER 3 AV©1611 DATE 26

HERE IS THE GREEK you want the last word in line 1. Quite easy to find, whether you can read it or not. It's the LAST word in LINE ONE.

MATHEMATICS is divided into 3 broad categories: arithmetic, algebra and geometry.
This is arithmetic.

1611 – 1546 = 65
Martin Luther died 65 years before the King James Bible was published in English. He could not therefore write it.

1483 – 26 = 1457
Martin Luther was not born until 1,457 years after the events recorded in Matthew 3 occurred. He could not therefore "invent" Baptists.

The First Pope
Damasus I Born about 304; died 11 December, 384.
He was elected pope in October, 366 from same source as Luther [above]

366 – 26 = 340
There was no such thing as a pope until 340 years after the Matthew 3 historical record and numerous other uses of the Greek word for Baptist (it's the same word with different endings depending on context such as "with" the Baptist, "of" the Baptist or even O Baptist!).

Obviously for anyone to understand the word it would already have to exist. If I said "the bird is on the tree" you know what I mean, because the word "tree" already exists. If I said "the bird is on the wsklebl" no-one would know what I meant because there is no word "wsklebl" (yet).

People would already have to know what Baptists were for John to be one.

[cory2522 (Recalcitrant)]

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atheist's/agnostics make me laugh what they dont know is that their delusional why? because they have done this abcd*skip*mno why do i say this? because science proves the easiest parts to understand and explain in the creation of the universe but lacks detail and information when it comes to the most crucial,important parts of it for e.g science they say the big bang made the universe but how can the universe for no reason at all just perfectly form itself in perfect order? how can life and nature be so perfectly made and how can man evolve from monkeys if monkeys are 6x times stronger than humans.

The big bang theory is impossible
Something cannot come from nothing. It is a scientific impossibility. The idea that one second there wasn’t anything then there was is frankly offensive to one’s intelligence. The big bang relies on an unknown spark, kind of like the gunman on the grassy knoll theory, that mixed with chemicals and blew up into planets and suns and people and plants.


The fact that every ecosystem in the world acts in accordance with itself and survives is proof of intelligent design. If it all just happened, as evolution and the big bang seem to suggest, there would be chaos everywhere. Instead, the more we delve into scientific fields, we find order. Order that can only be provided by a benevolent creator.


Miracles happen everyday
Documented cases of sick people being healed through prayer happen everyday, but go unreported by the liberal atheist media. Either that, or they get mocked by hordes of Godless Internet users on sites such as YouTube or Yahoo Answers. It is sad to see such free media with such a great potential to spread the word of Jesus get used for such travesties. Covering up the truth is often what Satan’s minions do.
Even scientific studies have confirmed the power of praying to God and Jesus for help. Atheists always cite studies, but strangely they never cite these studies. Because they only use science when it falls in their favor. To them, anything that isn’t liberal or Godless simply must not be heard. When one of their ‘theories’ is supposedly proven, they are all over it. When God’s existence is proven, they are quiet as a tick.


One solid strike against a scientific theory should be enough for it to be thrown out of the scientific world. However, in the case of the Big Bang and Darwinism, there are numerous logical impossibilities that plague both. I have chosen to present three simple and blatant impossibilities here. There are many more, but simply sticking to these points will win any argument as long as the focus is maintained. Don't let them throw you off track! Derailing your arguments is their most potent defense.
Let’s start at the beginning-

"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." Gen 1:1
Big Bang- in the beginning was, was…? A flaming ball of mass? No wait, what came before that? And where did all this energy come from? Where did the mass come from? Where did time come from? Where did the scientific laws come from? Where did this dimension come from?
Simply put, every natural effect has a natural cause. Science is the study of natural causes and effects. For instance, Newton and the apple. What made the apple fall? Ahhh, gravitational forces. In the natural world, it is completely impossible for something to cause itself. Any scientists who argues this would be laughed out of science. A conversation might go something like this-

Scientist 1: So, how did you get here?
Scientist 2: Well, that’s obvious, I created myself.
Scientist 1: It’s a well known fact that everything has a beginning and an end, stop being ridiculous, now how did you get here?
Scientist 2: I’m dead serious, I created myself!
Scientist 1: Everyone is born and…
Scientist 2: Listen, scientifically all I know is that I’m here and I don’t remember being born. I must have just always been here…
Scientist 1: HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

See the folly in basing a theory on science when the foundation of science cries out that the theory itself is impossible?
Gravity-

Let’s say that matter, energy, time, and scientific law simply created themselves out of nothing. Now, all the mass and energy in the initial flaming mass would have had to have been sufficient for the entire cosmos, according to the conservation laws of matter and energy. You know how much mass would be in the initial ball? We’re talking about all the galaxies in the cosmos combined in one great big ball. This amount of mass would be millions of times the mass of the sun. An object going the speed of light squared could not escape the gravity of the mass. The big mass would in fact become a black hole and would sit dormant in space forever. The Darwinist would have you believe that the explosion happened before natural law came into existence and then a few years afterward it set in. How scientific is this? Any more scientific than God? Certainly not. Any more logical than God? It is based upon a logical impossibility, since nothing can create itself. God is actually the only rational conclusion.



Entropy-

Let’s say that the previous two strikes were ignored. I’d like for you to conduct an experiment. Take a sheet of paper and shred it. Then toss the shreds in all directions up in the air and run around kicking and stomping on them. After a few seconds of this, check and see if the paper has generated an organized pattern on the floor. Specially look for information, such as distinct words on the floor or perhaps meaningful pictures, such as one representing the Mona Lisa. What have you done? You’ve created chaos out of order. Having taken a simple, organized sheet of paper, and adding energy, suddenly there is disorder and a nasty mess that needs to be cleaned up (sorry about that, I would help you with it but…). The same would be true of the Big Bang. Planets and suns are organized in such a way to perfectly suit each other, especially here on earth, where the earth is complemented perfectly by the moon to bring tides, the sun to bring the right amount of heat, and a special tilt and rotation of the earth to make life on earth possible. This is a very ordered system. The key to Entropy- nature tends to create chaos out of order, and not order out of chaos.