[Onthedope]

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I'd like you to enumerate at least one lie that is contained in the Bible.

. Whoever wrote the New Testament book of 2 Peter claimed to be Peter. But scholars everywhere will tell you that there is no way on God's green earth that Peter wrote the book. Someone else wrote it claiming to be Peter. Scholars may also tell you that it was an acceptable practice in the ancient world for someone to write a book in the name of someone else. But that is where they are wrong. If you look at what ancient people actually said about the practice, you'll see that they invariably called it lying and condemned it as a deceitful practice, even in Christian circles. 2 Peter was finally accepted into the New Testament because the church fathers, centuries later, were convinced that Peter wrote it. But he didn't. Someone else did. And that someone else lied about his identity.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

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He's not insulting you, dear. He's just sharing his twisted version of what women are, based on the bits in the Bible all right thinking modern Christian women ignore. He can't see how hateful his words are because he's obsessed with these bible verses.

Unlike you who seems to have a home-made decoding ring when it comes to your vision of The Almighty's Word.

If you create a god in your image, there's no difficulty following that god's commands.

God, in His Triune Form, tells us what to do and how to do it - there's no room for latte-sipping libertines in The Lord's Congregation.

[BelieverInGod]

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I'd like you to enumerate at least one lie that is contained in the Bible.[/

. Whoever wrote the New Testament book of 2 Peter claimed to be Peter. But scholars everywhere will tell you that there is no way on God's green earth that Peter wrote the book. Someone else wrote it claiming to be Peter. Scholars may also tell you that it was an acceptable practice in the ancient world for someone to write a book in the name of someone else. But that is where they are wrong. If you look at what ancient people actually said about the practice, you'll see that they invariably called it lying and condemned it as a deceitful practice, even in Christian circles. 2 Peter was finally accepted into the New Testament because the church fathers, centuries later, were convinced that Peter wrote it. But he didn't. Someone else did. And that someone else lied about his identity.

Funny that these "scholars" pick on 2 Peter so much, especially since it opens up with a long tirade about following false doctrines.

2nd Timothy 4:1-5 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

[Onthedope]

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Funny that these "scholars" pick on 2 Peter so much, especially since it opens up with a long tirade about following false doctrines.

2nd Timothy 4:1-5 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

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This may all seem like a bit of antiquarian curiosity but Whoever wrote the book of 1 Timothy claimed to be Paul. But he was lying about that -- he was someone else living after Paul had died.
Largely on the basis of this passage, the apostle Paul has been branded, by more liberation minded people of recent generations, as one of history's great misogynists. The problem, of course, is that Paul never said any such thing. And why does it matter? Because the passage is still used by church leaders today to oppress and silence women. Why are there no women priests in the Catholic Church? Why are women not allowed to preach in conservative evangelical churches? Why are there churches today that do not allow women even to speak?

[Mary Etheldreda]

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Whoever wrote the New Testament book of 2 Peter claimed to be Peter. But scholars everywhere will tell you that there is no way on God's green earth that Peter wrote the book. Someone else wrote it claiming to be Peter.

So what? Secular scholars will also tell you Jesus didn't exist, that He was just the iconic character some epileptic plagued with hallucinations conjured up to lend credibility to his cult that was based on the jewish religion. What secular scholars say doesn't mean anything, because they reject the Truth© in their hearts.

[BelieverInGod]

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This may all seem like a bit of antiquarian curiosity but Whoever wrote the book of 1 Timothy claimed to be Paul. But he was lying about that -- he was someone else living after Paul had died.
Largely on the basis of this passage, the apostle Paul has been branded, by more liberation minded people of recent generations, as one of history's great misogynists. The problem, of course, is that Paul never said any such thing. And why does it matter? Because the passage is still used by church leaders today to oppress and silence women. Why are there no women priests in the Catholic Church? Why are women not allowed to preach in conservative evangelical churches? Why are there churches today that do not allow women even to speak?

Again, why are you here? You think God is a liar who is either too weak to keep his book straight, or doesn't care.

I don't care what the catholics do, because CATHOLICS AREN'T CHRISTIAN

This is my last post to you. You are obviously nothing more than another demon possessed troll who knows everything about everything and is here to try and steal as many souls for your master as possible.

John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

[Onthedope]

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So what? Secular scholars will also tell you Jesus didn't exist, that He was just the iconic character some epileptic plagued with hallucinations conjured up to lend credibility to his cult that was based on the jewish religion. What secular scholars say doesn't mean anything, because they reject the Truth© in their hearts.

I don't believe Jesus doesn't exists
It's very unlikely he didn't would we have the bible if he wasn't? Probably not. But could some parts be exaggerated or changed over the years? Sounds likely

[Cranky Old Man]

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Probably not. But could some parts be exaggerated or changed over the years? Sounds likely

Utter nonsense. The Bible never changes! Changing the Bible would be against God's laws: Deuteronomy 4:2, Revelation 22:18-19.

[WalkingInTheLight]

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But could some parts be exaggerated or changed over the years? Sounds likely

I hope you realize this is terrible blasphemy!

[Redeemed Papist]

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I don't believe Jesus doesn't exists
It's very unlikely he didn't would we have the bible if he wasn't? Probably not. But could some parts be exaggerated or changed over the years? Sounds likely

But what if those bits are also inaccurate forgeries?

You might as well be an atheist. Just admit it that you don't believe in God and are happy to make stuff up that's a fake god just so you seem more socially acceptable. You're a wishy washy disgrace.

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

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This thread is quickly becoming a prime example of why women should not be educated, not to mention the $1 Trillion student loan bubble that is about to burst. We simply can't afford it.

Anyone seen Wash O'Hanley lately? We need him to close this thread.

[Rev. Waynetta Kerr]

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Unlike you who seems to have a home-made decoding ring when it comes to your vision of The Almighty's Word.

If you create a god in your image, there's no difficulty following that god's commands.

It just takes a modicum of common sense to divine what God really meant to be true in the bible. I resent the idea that anyone made God up - it's just clear that some of your over-sexist male forbears were fond of embellishing things to suit their own interests.

[WalkingInTheLight]

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It just takes a modicum of common sense to divine what God really meant to be true in the bible. I resent the idea that anyone made God up - it's just clear that some of your over-sexist male forbears were fond of embellishing things to suit their own interests.

...or maybe God hates everyone, and some of our overly liberal forbears were fond of embellishing things with talk of love and equality to suit their own interests and provide insubstantial moral loopholes for future sinners and fornicators?

Pfft, translation: I don't like some of it, so I'll just ignore those parts and mangle the words of God to justify my sin.

The Bible means exactly what it says, you are in denial.

[Paragon of virtue]

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Amen to that--you can't pick and choose what you like and what you don't like when it comes to God's Word. Who is more likely an accurate witness...the person who saw a gunman hold up a liquor store today....or the guy some 2000 years from now that claims the original witness was a fabrication? How can you say that Peter and Paul under the guidance of the Holy Spirit didn't write their sections of the Bible? Were you there? Were these so called "scholars" there?

Fact: Matter can not be created nor destroyed by natural means...this means to have a universe you must have the supernatural. God is the creator and the ruler of this universe, and if He tells you to stay out of school, then you better stay out.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, women are far superior to men in many, many ways: women are much better at cleaning the house, scrubbing toilets, washing dishes, changing the babies' diapers, spending money, and making me pies and sammiches. Off hand I can't think of anything else, but I don't know why anybody would try to work against their God given talents.

[BelieverInGod]

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It just takes a modicum of common sense to divine what God really meant to be true in the bible. I resent the idea that anyone made God up - it's just clear that some of your over-sexist male forbears were fond of embellishing things to suit their own interests.

And this is exactly what's wrong with the world. Everyone picks and chooses what to believe and what not to.

Now if everyone in the world would just pick up a KJV Bible and follow it word by word, this world would be a great place to live.