[Elijah Mee, PhD]

Re: The Christian guide to TORTURING your children

Why do you like making children suffer and being misserable? I was a happy little girl in my childhood years and I'm a normal person, in fact, no healthy person in the world could have such terrible experiencies in their first years, they could become criminals in the future, what they need are good parents and a safe home, parents are supposed to protect, not to hurt

Your parents sound like liberals. You're lucky they didn't abort you as a baby! I hear liberals are very fond of scrambled eggs!

Anyway, I'm glad you decided to take your self-righteous drooling elsewhere. Personally I don't agree with abortion under any circumstances but I look at you and I almost reconsider.

[129Laiou]

Re: The Christian guide to TORTURING your children

I assume you're older than me and this post was not intended to display any disrespect, but I want to state my opinion.

Torturing IS NOT a way of saving children from hell.

You said you have read the Bible, am I correct?

So I assume you have read that Jesus died for our sins and the only way to go to heaven is through Jesus, meaning we have to accept that we are sinful and we have to accept that Jesus is our savior.

The government made a law against child abuse to minimize the death rate of children dying from tortures. (Starvation, beatings, etc.)

Humiliations are the main cause of suicides. If a person kills his/herself, do they really go to heaven?

Have you read the ten commandments?

You said that we should obey the Bible, so I assumed you read have read Commandment number 10 (Thou shall not commit murder). The steps you are teaching can kill a child. Any one who follows this can kill their children, leading the to sin, breaking commandment number 10.

I agree that a bit of discipline can prevent a child from sinning. But as they grew older, most of them become violent. So, I think the steps are really not helpful.

Again, this reply does not intent any offenses, I am just stating my opinion. I'm looking forward for your reply.

[John Creeser]

Re: The Christian guide to TORTURING your children

I assume you're older than me and this post was not intended to display any disrespect, but I want to state my opinion.

Torturing IS NOT a way of saving children from hell.

You said you have read the Bible, am I correct?

So I assume you have read that Jesus died for our sins and the only way to go to heaven is through Jesus, meaning we have to accept that we are sinful and we have to accept that Jesus is our savior.

The government made a law against child abuse to minimize the death rate of children dying from tortures. (Starvation, beatings, etc.)

Humiliations are the main cause of suicides. If a person kills his/herself, do they really go to heaven?

Have you read the ten commandments?

You said that we should obey the Bible, so I assumed you read have read Commandment number 10 (Thou shall not commit murder). The steps you are teaching can kill a child. Any one who follows this can kill their children, leading the to sin, breaking commandment number 10.

I agree that a bit of discipline can prevent a child from sinning. But as they grew older, most of them become violent. So, I think the steps are really not helpful.

Again, this reply does not intent any offenses, I am just stating my opinion. I'm looking forward for your reply.

I'm assuming you've just read John 3:16 and then put down your Bible? Have you even read through this thread? Every True Christian(tm) on this forum has read the Bible (KJV) multiple times, hence the walls of scripture (in which you have posted none to back up your claims).

Now before you continue, kindly introduce yourself here

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: The Christian guide to TORTURING your children

Torturing IS NOT a way of saving children from hell.

It seems Proverbs 23:13-14 disagrees with you as do Proverbs 13:24 and Proverbs 29:15.

You said you have read the Bible, am I correct?

Wrong! Reading the Bible is just the start. You have to obey 100% of the Bible to prevent eternal damnation to Hell (James 2:10).

So I assume you have read that Jesus died for our sins and the only way to go to heaven is through Jesus, meaning we have to accept that we are sinful and we have to accept that Jesus is our savior.

Duh!

The government made a law against child abuse to minimize the death rate of children dying from tortures. (Starvation, beatings, etc.)

Obama is sent by Satan to break God's laws. Or do you think God agrees with our new gay army?

Humiliations are the main cause of suicides. If a person kills his/herself, do they really go to heaven?

No, they burn in Hell.

Have you read the ten commandments?

No. Please tell me more! They sound interesting...

Again, this reply does not intent any offenses, I am just stating my opinion. I'm looking forward for your reply.

Your opinion couldn't be less relevant. All that matters is God's will.

[Prayer Warrior]

Re: The Christian guide to TORTURING your children

You said that we should obey the Bible, so I assumed you read have read Commandment number 10 (Thou shall not commit murder). The steps you are teaching can kill a child. Any one who follows this can kill their children, leading the to sin, breaking commandment number 10.

Maybe your parents skipped out on your homeschooling lessons and beatings. That's probably why counting to 10 is really difficult for you. Liberal education at its finest. Maybe it isn't your fault. I'll try to give you the benefit of the doubt for your ignorance of scripture, but thou shalt not kill is commandment 6. http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=16785

Additionally, none of these steps involved killing your children. You're about as qualified to be a doctor or make medical evaluation as you are to be a mathematician.

[soulbanana]

Re: The Christian guide to TORTURING your children

Torture isn't enjoyable by any means. Look at the Spanish inquisition: they tortured people to convert them to Christianity! Who took their BS? No one. Everyone either died for their religion and died with pride and/or with hate towards the church, or they left. This will only teach children that our God is a cruel god.

[soulbanana]

Re: The Christian guide to TORTURING your children

Maybe your parents skipped out on your homeschooling lessons and beatings. That's probably why counting to 10 is really difficult for you. Liberal education at its finest. Maybe it isn't your fault. I'll try to give you the benefit of the doubt for your ignorance of scripture, but thou shalt not kill is commandment 6. http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=16785

Additionally, none of these steps involved killing your children. You're about as qualified to be a doctor or make medical evaluation as you are to be a mathematician.

However, attempting to kill the person through torture and making their life a living hell is breaking commandment 6 because you are tempting that child to end his life because it feels so miserable. If he suicides, that sin is on the torturer's soul, not the tortured.

[Didymus Much]

Re: The Christian guide to TORTURING your children

...If he suicides, that sin is on the torturer's soul, not the tortured.

That's not what the Bible says, so, no.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: The Christian guide to TORTURING your children

Torture isn't enjoyable by any means. Look at the Spanish inquisition: they tortured people to convert them to Christianity! Who took their BS? No one. Everyone either died for their religion and died with pride and/or with hate towards the church, or they left. This will only teach children that our God is a cruel god.

Who said torture should be enjoyable? Then wouldn't it be called "pleasure"?



Anyway, the Spanish Inquisition didn't work because who could be afraid of a bunch of fat, bald, drunken monks taking time away from fondling little boys to stretch the rack a little bit more? When the person trying to convince you to follow their religion is a buffoon, how could you seriously consider conversion?

[soulbanana]

Re: The Christian guide to TORTURING your children

Anyway, the Spanish Inquisition didn't work because who could be afraid of a bunch of fat, bald, drunken monks taking time away from fondling little boys to stretch the rack a little bit more? When the person trying to convince you to follow their religion is a buffoon, how could you seriously consider conversion?

Touché. Makes more sense now as to why it didn't work

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: The Christian guide to TORTURING your children

Torture isn't enjoyable by any means. Look at the Spanish inquisition: they tortured people to convert them to Christianity! Who took their BS? No one. Everyone either died for their religion and died with pride and/or with hate towards the church, or they left. This will only teach children that our God is a cruel god.

You really need to read some more and stop being an idiot - the Spanish Inquisition was torturing people to force them to be Catholics. Most of the people they prosecuted were Jews or Muslims who converted to Christianity that the Inquisition decided weren't Catholic enough.

You ever heard the word "Heretic" outside the context of some insipid computer game?

[IreneS]

Re: The Christian guide to TORTURING your children

Just like Guantanamo Bay and Abu Ghraib. They were tortured because they were mooslims, not because of anything they did. And the torture was totally justified - except by that lezbean Lynndie England. I mean really - what was the US army thinking by letting in lezbeans? She should have been at home scrubbing floors and bearing children.


But I digress. Children must grow up fearing God, not with fuzzy wuzzy furry feelings just ripe for plucking by Satan.

[Basilissa]

Re: The Christian guide to TORTURING your children

Torture isn't enjoyable by any means. Look at the Spanish inquisition: they tortured people to convert them to Christianity! Who took their BS? No one. Everyone either died for their religion and died with pride and/or with hate towards the church, or they left. This will only teach children that our God is a cruel god.

Like Bobby-Joe said, inquisition was to convert people to Catholicism. And guess what - it worked, because Spain and all of Latin America are mostly Catholic. (And no, Indians had no place to go, so they had no choice but to become Catholics).

[jensen emmett]

Re: The Christian guide to TORTURING your children

i wasn't sure if this thread was serious or not.
after reading some of these retarded redneck posts i was so pissed off i made an account just to post this.
so far it looks like this is just a place for religious crazies to take out there boiled up anger out on things in the name of religion.
this thread in particular IS COMPLETELY MESSED UP!
hitting your children? seriously? that seems horrible! whats that? your Chiristains!? WELL I GUESS IT'S OKAY THEN ISN'T IT? im from australia (the so called "nation of fags") and this is exactly what the stereotypical american christian is, a bunch of stupid rednecks who don't know their ass from a hole in the ground!

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: The Christian guide to TORTURING your children

i wasn't sure if this thread was serious or not.
after reading some of these retarded redneck posts i was so pissed off i made an account just to post this.
so far it looks like this is just a place for religious crazies to take out there boiled up anger out on things in the name of religion.
this thread in particular IS COMPLETELY MESSED UP!
hitting your children? seriously? that seems horrible! whats that? your Chiristains!? WELL I GUESS IT'S OKAY THEN ISN'T IT? im from australia (the so called "nation of fags") and this is exactly what the stereotypical american christian is, a bunch of stupid rednecks who don't know their ass from a hole in the ground!

Why the hate, friend?

Jesus commands that the rod not be spared on children.

Proverbs 13:24 He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.

Children not brought up with the correct amount of punishment they grow up to be liars, murderers and homersexuals.

Is that what you want for children?

What kind of monster are you?

YIC